Dropping support for Mozilla suite?

[Hudson Delbert J Contr 61 CS/SCBN]

bryan,

do you know why vi and emacs are so closely tied to the unixian dev
community?
lets see if you know your unix history. hint....think bill joy and mit also.

-----Original Message-----
From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
[mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com]On Behalf Of Bryan Pizzuti
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:45 PM
To: Ubuntu Users
Subject: RE: Dropping support for Mozilla suite?


Unless one prefers nano. :)  Personally I HATE vi and emacs (Yes, UNIX
sinner I am, sue me) but I'm stuck with them because UNIX and Linux
married themselves to those a long time ago. For simple text editing, I
don't see the advantantages of vi and emacs over nano. 

However, I DO see the advantages of a WYSIWIG HTML designer over a text
mode one. Some of my background is graphic design, and I have a better
time doing site designing with a visual tool (at least initially;
usually I'll use a text editor to clean up the HTML afterwards at
least). 

I think some have forgotten that OpenOffice.org Writer has support for
saving as HTML. That would be a viable replacement for the Mozilla
Composer, and it wouldn't even require additional space on the CD. ;)

On Tue, 2004-11-23 at 08:04 -0800, Hudson Delbert J Contr 61 CS/SCBN
wrote:
> people, people....hi, this is prof. old-puffen-n-stuf,
> 
> 	'html is text, mein little ones, and as text nothing is better than
> vi'
> 
> 	use the kiss principle.
> 
> out~
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
> [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com]On Behalf Of Martin
> Alderson
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:19 AM
> To: ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com; Ubuntu Users
> Subject: Re: Dropping support for Mozilla suite?
> 
> 
> I don't think so.
> 
> There is very little chance that a fully featured web site authoring
> tool will come out of the OSS community for a while. Dreamweaver is
> the standard, and it's quite good.
> 
> Same with Fireworks or Illustrator, currently there is no good vector
> drawing program that can do web graphics (Fireworks is a big
> favourite).
> 
> NVu is horrible IMO, very clunky and terrible usability issues.
> 
> I think at this moment in time the best thing to do is point people
> towards a good web text editor (ie: support for CSS, HTML and JS
> syntax highlighting) and a copy of GIMP.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 15:06:07 +0100, Martin Pitt
> <martin.pitt at canonical.com> wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > John Levin [2004-11-19 13:24 +0000]:
> > > I'd certainly miss Mozilla Composer - would support for Nvu be added
to
> > > Ubuntu?
> > 
> > We certainly need a good HTML editor. Personally I know only one (vim,
> > sorry folks :-) ), but I think it will not be a problem to hear the
> > voice and wishes of the community here.
> > 
> > > Is there a transcript of the Tuesday meeting online? I'd like to get
up
> > > to speed on this debate.
> > 
> >
>
http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-2004-11-16.ht
> ml
> > 
> > Martin
> > 
> > 
> > --
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