I cannot login in after a fresh install, don't know root password, and it never asked me to create a user

Derek Broughton news at pointerstop.ca
Fri Aug 5 00:30:25 UTC 2005


Al Gordon wrote:

> On 8/4/05, Tim Holmes <tholmes at mcaschool.net> wrote:
>> Its not so much difficult, as it is STUPID.  I like Ubuntu, I use
>> Ubuntu, but I tell you what, that one thing (lack of easy normal root
>> access) nearly cost the distro a user,  that has to be the most inane
>> idea in the entirety of the unix/linux world. I use linux to make things
>> easier, not harder, and having to type extra commands to do my normal
>> administrator work is NOT what I call easier -- it annoying, clunky and
>> a generally BAD idea.
> 
> I love it when teachers rant and call things stupid.
> 
> This sudo vs. root thing is really fun to read about every day, but
> maybe there should be a big red page in the installer that says "The
> root account is disabled by default - We use sudo instead."  Maybe
> then, when people are informed of such an apparently radical change
> and don't have to learn about it the hard way, we can stop discussing
> it on this list.

Not likely.  People like Tim _know_ why it's done, and still refuse to
believe there are valid security reasons for doing it.  Personally, I think
I'm pretty smart - but there has been more than one (probably more than 3)
times that I have totally f*cked somebody _else's_ system when I executed a
command in a root account when I was thinking I was in my own.  Once it was
a large bank...
-- 
derek





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