Ubuntu's unstable vs Debian unstable

Shot - Piotr Szotkowski shot at hot.pl
Thu Dec 1 00:48:59 UTC 2005


Hello.

Scott:

> I gave etch a try a few weeks back which was missing scads-o-packages.
> I found said packages in Sid.  So, I was using packages from both.  It
> became dependency hell (even with pinning).

In my experience, sooner or later I always needed a package that
depended (directly or indirectly) on sid's libc, in which case pinning
the default to testing packages for stability reasons seems rather moot,
and I always ended with a sid-only system.

> From my personal experience, I've found that Ubuntu has some
> packages I like/want that Debian doesn't and Debian has some
> packages I like/want that Ubuntu doesn't.

Yes, but porting packages from Debian sid to Ubuntu stable is, in my
opinion, usually quite easy (just a `fakeroot dpkg-rebuildpackage`
away in most cases).

> In the meantime, Sarge is OK if you don't mind not having
> the latest stuff (and for a server it's awesome I'm sure).

Actually, I'm using Ubuntu on my servers as well. In theory, I have to
remember to track non-main packages' security by myself (while Debian
supports everything it ships), but in practice the MotU team does
a splendid job, Debian's security isn't as good as Ubuntu's main's,
and at least I can use a supported, official PHP 5 packages. :o)

Cheers,
-- Shot
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