Ubuntu is under attack

[Old Rocker]

On Sunday 18 December 2005 23:17, Jan Moren wrote:

> Um, that's what kubuntu is for. Ubuntu is at heart a Gnome distro,
> and with such a limited space on the CD, don't expect a large set of
> packages like that to crowd out all the other useful or necessary
> stuff.

I accept that there would be less space on the given-out CD, but does 
everyone get and use Ubuntu this way?  My last two attempts to get 
Ubuntu and Kubuntu were via download as an .iso file.  And I'm sure 
that more could be put into an .iso download, even if that means 
multiple disks for those that want them.

Ubuntu IS a GNOME based distro, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be 
more.  I've seen nothing about downloading Ubuntu into Kubuntu, which 
(as I prefer KDE) seems to me to be an oversight.  And, yes, I have 
looked at the wiki, although I am prepared to admit that I might have 
missed it.

Debian moved slowly with bringing Sarge into stable, but it has promised 
to bring forward future updates.  The problem is that Ubuntu is not 
FULLY Debian compatible so we are forced to use those packages in the 
Ubuntu/Kubuntu repositories, and Ubuntu can't always install 
applications that are in the Debian repositories  That's not giving 
people choice.

I accept that Ubuntu/Kubuntu puts something back to Debian but we're in 
danger of forking the whole Debian system, as well as removing that 
stability that Ian Murdoch started Debian to maintain.  Nor am I 
against a distro that puts as much on a CD as it can and that includes 
GNOME.  What I am against is that it should be forging ahead without 
including software that is Debian compatible.

And if the developers wanted to do so, couldn't they upgrade Ubuntu 
every six months by basing it around fully Debian compatible software?

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Old Rocker