Ubuntu is under attack

Jan Moren jan.moren at lucs.lu.se
Mon Dec 19 22:42:29 UTC 2005


sön 2005-12-18 klockan 15:10 +0000 skrev Graham:
> On Sunday 18 December 2005 13:55, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> 
> > I think we need a section in the Ubuntu Wiki. Here is what you should
> > install, after the bare-bones install that you're provided on the CD.
> > How about, HowToMakeUbuntuNotSuck.
> 
> Well, perhaps a loaded title, but not a bad idea, though why the CD 
> can't come with a bare-bones KDE setup as well defeats me.  Ubuntu must 
> be the only major distro not to do it.  Yes, I know you can do it by 
> installing kubuntu-desktop, but KDE is not a minor suite, and like 
> other distros, it should be at bootup as standard.

Um, no. One basic giuding idea of Ubuntu has been to pick one
alternative and do it really well. Not always followed perfectly to be
sure, but it is a good idea. Ubuntu is at its heart a Gnome
distribution; why not let it be so? Even a "bare-bones KDE" is big and
would push out a _lot_ of other packages.

If you want KDE, it's after all only one apt-get away, or you can
install kubuntu instead.


> The problem is (as I understand it), Ubuntu does NOT provide an 
> interface with pure Debian packages.  Some work and others do not.  If 
> the system was compatible with 100% pure Debian packages, there would 
> be no problem with choice, and if Debian provided as good an installer 
> as Ubuntu, there would be no need for Ubuntu as a stand-alone distro.  
> We could all join forces around debian.org.

Ubuntu is not intended to be compatible with Debian repositories. It
really can't be fully compatible, given the different goals.

By the way, the Ubuntu installer _is_ the Debian installer. 

If you want Debian, use Debian. What's the point of trying to make
Ubuntu into Debian when it already exists?



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