ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 11, Issue 195

Barry Young youngbar at insightbb.com
Sat Jul 16 20:37:47 UTC 2005 

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>   1. Re: GRUB does not load Windows XP (Michael Scottaline)
>   2. Echo Indigo PCMCIA soundcard help (Ronit Bhattacharyya)
>   3. Feeding changes back to Debian (Stephen R Laniel)
>   4. Re: Translating an app from KDE to GNOME (ZIYAD A. M. AL-BATLY)
>   5. Ubuntu "Lite"  (Or dare I say.. 'Lubuntu'.. :) (Chanchao)
>   6. Re: Getting ready to Install Ubuntu (Stelian Iancu)
>   7. Re: Ubuntu or Debian Dilemma (Mustafa Abbasi)
>   8. Re: adding space to a physical volume?? (Rameshkumar)
>   9. Re: Ubuntu "Lite"  (Or dare I say.. 'Lubuntu'.. :)
>      (Dennis Kaarsemaker)
>  10. Re: which progrraming language to learn first (Dennis Kaarsemaker)
>  11. Re: Echo Indigo PCMCIA soundcard help (Thomas Hood)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:21:04 -0400
> From: Michael Scottaline <mscottaline at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: GRUB does not load Windows XP
> To: Weiers Coetser <coetserw at gmail.com>, Ubuntu Help and User
> Discussions <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <e1420eb405071608215a1357b4 at mail.gmail.com>
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> On 7/16/05, Weiers Coetser <coetserw at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>>  I am having trouble getting GRUB to load Windows XP
> =========================
> That's not a bug; it's a feature!  ;o)
> Sorry, couldn't resist.  The advice you've already gotten about
> editing /boot/grub/menu.lst should remedy the problem.
> Mike
> -- 
> "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us
> with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."
> - Galileo Galilei
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:28:20 -0400
> From: Ronit Bhattacharyya <ronitb at gmail.com>
> Subject: Echo Indigo PCMCIA soundcard help
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> Hello all,
>
> I'm running Ubuntu on a an Averatec 5500 laptop. I have an Echo Audio
> Indigo PCMCIA/CardBus sound card. Ubuntu or ALSA are not recognizing
> the soundcard at all. The soundcard driver has been released under the
> GNU license. I found documentation for installing a module of ALSA
> with the driver for this soundcard here:
>
> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Echo+Digital+Audio+Corporation&card=Indigo.&chip=Motorola+56361&module=indigo
>
> I've tried following the directions, but I have not met with success.
> Has anyone else here had experience installing this type of soundcard?
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Ronit
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 12:04:56 -0400
> From: Stephen R Laniel <steve at laniels.org>
> Subject: Feeding changes back to Debian
> To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <20050716160456.GA9055 at TheloniousMonk.laniels.org>
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> I know some people -- like Ian Murdock -- were worried that
> Ubuntu would end up weakening Debian rather than adding to
> it. I'm curious how we're doing. For instance, is Debian
> development of X.org progressing any faster because Ubuntu
> is using X.org in Breezy? I'd think that Ubuntu would
> actually help Etch move toward stability.
>
> Similarly: are Ubuntu packages staying compatible with
> Debian? If one takes an Ubuntu package and strips the
> 'ubuntu' suffix off the package name, does it become a
> Debian package?
>
> -- 
> Stephen R. Laniel
> steve at laniels.org
> +(617) 308-5571
> http://laniels.org/
> PGP key: http://laniels.org/slaniel.key
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:07:46 +0300
> From: "ZIYAD A. M. AL-BATLY" <zamb at saudi.net.sa>
> Subject: Re: Translating an app from KDE to GNOME
> To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 16:00 -0400, Stephen R Laniel wrote:
>> I really love the Akregator newsreader, but it's a KDE app
>> and for various reasons I'd like to GNOMEify it. (The
>> biggest reason is probably just integration with the rest of
>> GNOME: I'd like it to use the GNOME proxy, GNOME default web
>> browser, etc.) Does anyone know how hard this is? Has anyone
>> done it?
>>
> For start: Don't expect it to be easy!  Even more if the application is
> not written professionally (i.e. there's no separation between the
> different parts of applications like the GUI, Network, Caching, Storage)
> it might be very hard.
>
> Some other points:  KDE applications use Qt (which is a C++ toolkit like
> most other parts of KDE) while GNOME's use GTK+ (which is a C toolkit
> like most other parts of GNOME).  (This doesn't mean you can't use C++
> with GTK+ or C with Qt.)
>
> I don't know how "Akregator" is written, but you might be better off
> writing a _wrapper_ around it to make it more integrated into GNOME
> instead of converting it.  You could also create a Qt Theme (assuming
> there isn't one already) that monitor GTK+'s themes and try to mimic
> their appearances.
>
> I hope this post wont turn you down and I hope you find it useful (even
> a little).
> Ziyad.
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:09:42 +0700
> From: Chanchao <custom at freenet.de>
> Subject: Ubuntu "Lite"  (Or dare I say.. 'Lubuntu'.. :)
> To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <1121530182.9006.27.camel at localhost.localdomain>
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> Sorry for the toe-cramp inducing 'Lubuntu' there but it spices up a
> rather mundane question:
>
> The case at hand:
>
> A pair of older NEC Celeron computers with 64 MB Ram.. 12 Gb disk...
> Currently running Windows Millennium..  The current and intended use is
> basic web browsing.. They're used to give customers free internet access
> in a small, cheap & cheerful coffee & cake shop in Chiang Mai, Thailand.
> Kind of like Starbucks but with prices about half of Starbuck's, coffee
> grown locally in the hills around the city..
>
> The computers were bought second-had for seriously little money, US$ 75
> each, including nice LCD screens even. They came with Windows
> Millennium, though no licenses.  Along with the basic issue of the
> current setup being illegal, just 2 days of use already resulted in a
> laundry list of spyware and at least one virus.  So.. sounds like a
> perfect case for Ubuntu to come to the rescue.
>
> But... Have a feeling that a default install of Ubuntu would run at the
> speed of highway-construction..
>
> Is there (and if so what is) a good way of uninstalling all Ubuntu
> services that aren't absolutely necessary in order to gain some
> available memory and therefore speed?  Perhaps even ditch Gnome in
> favour of something leaner?  All they have to do is run Firefox.
>
> Cheers,
> Chanchao
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:11:14 +0300
> From: Stelian Iancu <stelian.iancu at gmx.net>
> Subject: Re: Getting ready to Install Ubuntu
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <20050716161114.GD22211 at mail.siancu.net>
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> * Barry Young <youngbar at insightbb.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a Compaq Presario that I want to install Ubuntu on.
>>
>> Do I just pop in the CD and boot the machine?
>>
>> Or is there other things I need to do.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Barry
>
> Well, that depends. Do you have another operating system installed on
> that PC? If yes, do you want to keep it and dual-boot with Ubuntu?
>
> Remember this mantra: the more details you give us, the bigger the
> chance you'll get more help! :-)
>

Thanks for the reply.  Nope, this will be a Linux Only machine sitting on a 
network.

Barry



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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:30:34 +0500
> From: Mustafa Abbasi <lordverminard at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu or Debian Dilemma
> To: tom.adelstein at gmail.com, Ubuntu Help and User Discussions
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>>
>> Ditto on the community. Also, you have someone with a benevolent spirit
>> putting money into the community and that's something you can't dismiss
>> casually. Without Mark and the code of conduct, Linux communities were
>> heading for a glorious crash.
>
>
> whats this.
> whose mark
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:05:00 +0530
> From: Rameshkumar <ubuntu.ramesh at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: adding space to a physical volume??
> To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Cc: lordverminard at gmail.com
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> Hi,
>
> Please have a look over this help.
>
> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Rameshkumar
>
>
>
> On 7/16/05, Mustafa Abbasi <lordverminard at gmail.com> wrote:
>> i added a new partition to a logical volume.
>>  first i did pvcreate on the partition.
>>  then vgextend
>>  then lvextend
>>  but for some reason when i check system monitor it still shows the space
>> before i added the physical volume.
>>  what am i doing wrong.
>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:40:39 +0200
> From: Dennis Kaarsemaker <dennis at kaarsemaker.net>
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu "Lite"  (Or dare I say.. 'Lubuntu'.. :)
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> On za, 2005-07-16 at 23:09 +0700, Chanchao wrote:
>> Is there (and if so what is) a good way of uninstalling all Ubuntu
>> services that aren't absolutely necessary in order to gain some
>> available memory and therefore speed?  Perhaps even ditch Gnome in
>> favour of something leaner?  All they have to do is run Firefox.
>
> Perform a server install and install fluxbox or xfce instead of gnome.
> You should try another browser too, firefox isn't the lightest...
> -- 
> Dennis K.
>  - Linux for human beings: http://www.ubuntulinux.org
>  - Linux voor normale mensen: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:41:50 +0200
> From: Dennis Kaarsemaker <dennis at kaarsemaker.net>
> Subject: Re: which progrraming language to learn first
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> On za, 2005-07-16 at 14:33 +0500, Mustafa Abbasi wrote:
>
>> the site i am using mentioned using a good editor.
>
> Eclipse with python plugin :)
> (I personally prefer vim, but it has a steep learning curve)
> -- 
> Dennis K.
>  - Linux for human beings: http://www.ubuntulinux.org
>  - Linux voor normale mensen: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:41:58 +0200
> From: Thomas Hood <jdthood at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Echo Indigo PCMCIA soundcard help
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <pan.2005.07.16.16.41.57.573126 at yahoo.co.uk>
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> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:28:20 -0400, Ronit Bhattacharyya wrote:
>> I'm running Ubuntu on a an Averatec 5500 laptop. I have an Echo Audio
>> Indigo PCMCIA/CardBus sound card. Ubuntu or ALSA are not recognizing
>> the soundcard at all.
>
> The driver module is present in alsa-modules packages.  You will have to
> build one of these for your kernel from the sources in alsa-source using
> the make-kpkg utility.  See /usr/share/doc/alsa-source/README.Debian.
>
> -- 
> Thomas Hood
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