that darned ROOT problem

[Bo Grimes]

Steve Kratz wrote:

>We don't need to literally translate his statement -- It's a
>generalization that tends to be true more than not. People familiar with
>Linux (coming from a different distro) tend to overlook the install
>screen 'junk' and want to get to the OS as fast as possible to see what
>it offers. EVERY other Linux distro I've ever used has "su" and a root
>account.
>

And people familiar with Ubuntu for so long assume the message is 
there.  It's not, not in the ISO image that came with the July 05 issue 
of Linux format.  I can't tie up my phone line for days to get a torret 
and ShiptIt took 3 months with Warty.

I took digital pics of the install procees, and will post the to a web 
page if I have time.  There is simply nothing there about it.

Further, this whole discussion seems to imply that Ubuntu is for newbies 
who won't have any problems because they don't know enough to.  However, 
if the only real way to get Ubuntu is with broadband and downloading 
torrets, if it's not that easy to figure out how to set up a dial-up 
account, if the only real help is irc and mailing lists and forums you 
have to know about and be able to access and if there's a lack of easily 
accessible documentation, how many "humans" are getting left out?

For every complain on here how many disks are just getting tossed in the 
trash?