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[Christopher Chan]

Res wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Christopher Chan wrote:
> 
>>>> Excuse me? I don't remember seeing you on spam-l. Spammers have Outblaze
>>> no, not on spam-l
>> spam-l is where the postmasters/mail admins of many sites hang out and
> 
> Yet, I'm just not there, I'm on mailops though, its nice low traffic, I 
> have enough crap to sioft through every day as it is

Hahaha. Don't worry, if you can handle the postfix list, you can handle 
spam-l no problemo. But spam-l members are mostly hosters (lurkers not 
included) so maybe there is not much point for you unless you want to 
try to ping a hoster's admin/postmaster.

> 
>> perhaps more importantly also where you can find many maintainers and
>> former maintainers of block lists such as Steve of Spamhaus and Matthew
>> of SORBS.
>>
> 
> I have Matts private email, and mobile, he used to live in my city, now 
> working down south though.

And I suppose you are going to say that Matthew calls Outblaze spammers.

> 
>>> rumour has it they got their act together in recent times, I guess you
>>> have confirmed that rumour is only a rumour :)
>> I am sorry but I find it hard to believe that something changed in
>> Outblaze after I left. Nor does anything on spam-l even hint at such a
>> rumour.
> 
> Once a spammer always a spammer I spose.
> 

Well then, produce proof that Outblaze spams or sends spams on behalf of 
others then.

> 
>> Outblaze spamtraps feed a lot of block lists. Unless you want to call
>> these block lists (SA even has OB fed lists defined) hypocrites, you
>> better be careful of who you accuse of being spammers.
> 
> If it looks like spam, smells like spam, then it will be spam, I give fair 
> warning before I block, if they co-operate I have greater tolerance, if 
> they don't, then i couldnt give a rats ass who they are, I'll call em 
> spammers and block em.

HA! Unfortunately, I doubt you have automated removal of netblocks that 
have been allocated to some clueless company who don't know they are 
getting 'tainted' netblocks from their unscrupulous ISP. So even if, as 
you say, you give 'fair' warning, I doubt that means much. Most 
non-hosting sites don't have to care about receiving emails from Yahoo, 
Hotmail, Google or Outblaze clients like Mail.com.

> 
> (I also use blocklists at MTA, I dont beleive in using them in SA, in tehy 
> are in a block list, they are in it for a reason, and I trust the RBL's 
> I use, so thats good enough for me not wasting any more hardware resources 
> on a host :)
> 

Sure, it's pointless otherwise. However, you won't find Outblaze 
netblocks in any sane blocklist (country blocklists and such like ones 
exempted...that is their purpose).