I today brought up the OO database and was pleased to see it accepts the SQL language! That is what I know and all their automatic things must output SQL code. So I will be happy doing all my old DB work on that ready made data base. Very nice. Karl -- Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI Linux User #450462 http://counter.li.org. PGP 4208 4D6E 595F 22B9 FF1C ECB6 4A3C 2C54 FE23 53A7