Forget Hardy

mwbesemer at cox.net mwbesemer at cox.net
Wed Jun 11 01:51:22 UTC 2008


So long Bart... it's been a real pleasure.  

---- Bart Silverstrim <bsilver at chrononomicon.com> wrote: 
> 
> 
> mwbesemer at cox.net wrote:
> > Attitudes make all the difference.  I never defended Karl, yet I have
> > 5 or 6 people flaming me for doing so.  As I stated earlier, I solved
> > my problems using other resources because my perception of this group
> > (based on reading nearly all the traffic) was poor.  You don't have
> > to POST here to get a feel for the personality of the list.
> > 
> > For the record, I've had two emails direct to me stating that when
> > they asked questions on this list, they were told (in effect) that
> > they were too stupid to be using Ubuntu.  And, before anybody asks,
> > no... I will not post those private emails here... no point throwing
> > anybody else under the bus when I can take the heat all by myself.
> 
> A) no one asked you to, and it's not the first time someone defended 
> themselves by stating "I heard from X people privately..."; if it's 
> private, and you're not going to share it, don't discuss it.
> 
> B) if you have a question, ask it. If you don't like the tone, don't use 
> the resource, unsubscribe (and done whine that you're made to feel 
> stupid when you ask how to unsubscribe...) Playing martyr (I can take 
> the heat all by myself!) will speak volumes about your online 
> personality, and probably fasttrack you to several filters.
> 
> I think it is also fascinating how many people are being made out to 
> lurk here yet have the cajones to privately email people about how they 
> refuse to post or are afraid to contribute because they're made to feel 
> stupid...yet they stick around, and more to the point, are first to rush 
> up and anonymously stand behind their knight in shining armor standing 
> up for their supposed crusade not to feel stupid.
> 
> I don't know you. If you haven't contributed much at all, no one here 
> really knows you in all likelihood. I'll offer one bit of free 
> advice...reign in your temper now. Wait a day to respond. Bitching, 
> whining, playing games of machismo will do nothing but stir the pot on 
> this list. So please, just stop, stop pressing your own buttons and 
> letting others do so as well.
> 
> If you're actually just trying to boil things...well, *shrug* no one can 
> stop you. But if you actually want to contribute and have others try to 
> help you, I'm begging you to stop now before you do get a Karl reputation.
> 
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