Xorg.conf vs. Xorg.config With BFG Nvidia G71 [GeForce 7300GS] & Hardy 64 Bit

[Dave Woyciesjes]

Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> 
> --- On Mon, 10/20/08, Dave Woyciesjes <woyciesjes at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> From: Dave Woyciesjes <woyciesjes at sbcglobal.net>

>>> --- On Mon, 10/20/08, Dave Woyciesjes
>> <woyciesjes at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>     Okay. Here's the quick n dirty. I let the
>>>> install
>>>> use the default it 
>>>> wanted. Then I let the Hardware Drivers install
>>>> whatever
>>>> proprietary 
>>>> driver it thought was best. Then I used
>>>> nvidia-settings to
>>>> set it up. 
>>>> The setup did not seem to persist through reboots,
>>>> so I
>>>> ended up editing 
>>>> the menu item for nvidia-settings, added
>>>> "gksudo"
>>>> before the 
>>>> nvidia-settings command. Once I got it tweaked the
>>>> way I
>>>> liked, I hit 
>>>> the Save To X Configuration file, and chose to not
>>>> merge. I
>>>> assume it 
>>>> did a complete replace. To get the advanced
>>>> effects, I then
>>>> had to 
>>>> install compizconfig-settings-manager.


>>> So far, I'm with you except for having
>>> compizconfig-setings installed. It is now installed. I know
>>> see it one matter to activate compiz and totally another to
>>> configure it. Your post will help on this.  Thanks.

>> 	Yeah, not sure why it isn't included by default
>> nowadays, or 
>> automagically installed when you turn on the advanced
>> settings...


>>>>     That was all, no editing of xorg.conf from the
>>>> terminal. I just 
>>>> looked, and I only have xorg.conf, no xorg.config.
>>>>

>>> Well, I have manually edited xorg.conf several times
>>> some with succuess, some not. I guess I'm the only Ubutu
>>> Hardy user with xorg.confif file in my /etc/X11. I still
>>> wonder why I can run with xorg.conf deleted and X still
>>> works but no one has commented.

>> 	Have you tried adding gksudo to the nvidia-settings, and
>> using that to 
>> configure? Once you get it the way you like, have it write
>> to the 
>> xorg.conf file, and have a look. I have yet to edit it by
>> hand.
>> 	As for xorg.config, rename it out of the wya and see what
>> happens?


> Yes, I've used both sudo and gksudo for nvidia-settings.
 > After mving xorg.conf and xorg.config and rebooting, I
 > get these errors when now running nvidia-settings:
> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please
 > edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig`
 > as root), and restart the X server.
> 
> And, the nvidia-settings panel is now blank. The previous
 > settings are gone. It seems to me that Hardy's X system
 > setup is very buggy.
> 
> Aptitude show nvidia-glx-new-envy says it's still
 > installed but aptitude search doesn't find the
 > nvidia-kernel-172.*.* which I just reinstalled for the
> umteenth time. Nvidia-xconfig is incompatible with
 > nvidia-glx-new-envy driver and nvidia-kernel-172.*.* or
 > so aptitude show says. Strange as it seems, I appear to
 > still have the native 1680x1050 res, but I'm getting
 > tired of this buggy X system setup(nvidia's) and am
 > going to move back what I had before.
> 


>>>>     Now, currently I had to switch back to my
>>>> nVidia Quadro
>>>> NVS 400 ( 
>>>> the powersupply couldn't keep up with the
>>>> BFG), which
>>>> is using nvidia in 
>>>> the xorg.conf file (nvidia-glx).


>>> Thanks to a new relatively upscale machine, I
>>> don't have that problem. Running 65C well below max.
>>> BTW, I couldn't get my card to work with nvidia-glx or
>>> nvidia-glx-new.


>> 	Mayeb try removing both, reboot, and just take whatever
>> the 
>> restrictedd/propreitary driver manager chooses?
>>


> Did that above and it appears it didn't install
>  the restricted/proprietary driver at all.


>>>>     Let me know how you make out....
>>>>

>>> well, I think I'm running at 1680x1050 native
>>> resolution but not sure how to verify that. I still have
>>> "nvidia" driver in xorg.conf and
>>> "nvidia-glx-new-envy in xorg.conf and if I remove
>>> xorg.conf I can't tell the difference in resolution.
>>> Wish I knew what I'm doing or better, what Hardy is
>>> doing.


>> 	Don't know the details, but from what I gather reading
>> here, X now 
>> dynamically detects hardware. IIRC, someone mentioned that
>> xorg.conf 
>> isn't really needed anymore...


>>> Dave, thanks for the details I needed.  Much
>>> appreciated.


>> 	No problemo. Just for giggles, try it the way I did, and
>> see what it 
>> gives you. Then compare that to your hand-edited
>> xorg.conf...


> As mentioned above, it's no longer giggles for me, so going
 > back to what I had using the proprietary driver.  FWIW,
 > lsmod now doesn't have nvidia or nv in it now but did.
> I repeat, BUGGY, BUGGY. Thanks for your input, I did learn
 > something new but still don't understand what is
 > going on underneath.

	Hmmm? all seems terribly odd to me. The only thing I can figured is 
remove _all_ nvidia* drivers, and basically start from scratch. Of 
course, I can fully understand how this is not fun anymore for you.
	What is the difference between the glx and glx-envy drivers anyway?

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