I found the Jaunty Beta CD-Rom and format /dev/sda9 where Jaunty WAS, and now a new version is in place. It wants a lot of upgrades so I will let it do that while I'm gone today. I will be careful removing Totem. 73 Karl -- Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI Linux User #450462 http://counter.li.org. Key ID = 3951B48D