KDE4.3 beta issues

[Leonard Chatagnier]

--- On Fri, 5/29/09, Karl F. Larsen <klarsen1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Karl F. Larsen <klarsen1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: KDE4.3 beta issues
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 7:00 AM
> David Fox wrote:
> > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Karl F. Larsen <klarsen1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >>     Alas, I am a Gnome user
> and with KDE I can't find basic things I
> >> use daily like a Terminal. The KDE Desktop has all
> the directories I
> >> have on it and a movie uses the VLS viewer ok. But
> I have looked for
> >> Wicd and it is working but hidden somewhere :-)
> >>     
> >
> > Plenty of choices here. It's pretty standard to open
> up a new konsole
> > with ALT-F2 and type the word konsole.
> >
> > I'm running 4.2 KDE on Jaunty at the moment. What PPA
> are you usiing
> > that provides 4.3? I'd be more interested in what
> deficiencies there
> > are with KDE 4.x (x approximating 2 for now, or
> perhaps 3) and what
> > could be done better? A lot of what I see is just
> simply vague
> > statements about kde not being ready, but it works OK
> for me.
> >
> >
> >   
>     I am using KDE 4.1 according to the panel
> that says so when I boot 
> up. I started out not finding Firefox or a Terminal, two
> things I use a 
> lot. I was just not smart enough to find these.
> 
>     Then I wrote "help" in one of the things on
> the "desktop" and up 
> came Kubuntu help. This helped me find the green button
> with a K on it. 
> I fiddled with that for a few minutes and found Internet
> and then 
> Firefox which now runs fine in Kubuntu. Then I found a good
> replacement 
> for Terminal which appears to work just like Terminal.
> 
>     I tried Alt-F2 and the one line panel came
> up. When I typed konsole 
> and a Terminal was made.
> 
>     My opinion on the problem with Kubuntu is it
> is new and users of 
> Gnome can't find things like me, and they say "it does not
> work right". 
> Something Gnome does is it has Help right up front. I think
> Kubuntu 
> should as well. I was just lucky to have the Alt-F2 panel
> up somehow, 
> and I typed help :-)
> 
> 
> Karl
> 
Good and fair opinion of gnome vs. KDE.  I've used KDE since Debian Woody bf2.4 and now use KDE4.4.2.2 in Intrepid with gnome also installed. Contrary to all said about it, I find KDE 4.2.2 to run well, no crashes or freezes, including firefox, swiftfox, opera, seamonkey, TB, etc, etc.
I have gotten used to gnome and learned something about it and can use it but still prefer KDE as does Derek and others while NoOP and many others still prefer gnome.  If you like a windows stile desktop without all the Windoze cruft, then KDE is probably what you want or have both gnome and kde as I and I'm sure many others do.
Karl, in case you don't know, you can add anything in the Kmenu to the system panel by just opening the blue(not green) Kmenu menu in the sys panel and right clicking the menu item you want to add to the panel.  You will see three items, add to favorites, add to Desktop and add to panel. Left click the item you want and presto it's icon is there.
In my system panel, I have kensole(default terfminal), desktop, shutdown, all the browsers listed above, Plasma Dashboard, kmix, wicd manager, date and time, trash and an icon that shows devices recently plugged in.  That's all I care to have and rarely use the Kmenu panel button.  Again, I don't find the KDE4 desktop unstable but haven't tried the beta issue.  Hope this helps someone contemplating using KDE4+

Leonard Chatagnier
lenc5570 at sbcglobal.net