Oh, please, please, COME ON Ubuntu development people!

[Gilles Gravier]

Hi, Alan!

On 15/04/2011 11:15, Alan Pope wrote:
> Hi Gilles,
>
> On 15 April 2011 10:10, Gilles Gravier <ggravier at fsfe.org> wrote:
>> What I want to add to the debate is that this is a "BETA" version. We
>> are talking about a product not yet finished. Not yet ready for
>> mission-critical use
> Today is 15th of April. Release date of Natty is 28th April. That's
> not long. It's not unreasonable to expect that you might be able to
> install the thing a couple of weeks out from release, is it?
I don't know. As far as I'm concerned, a beta is a beta. It's not even
called a release candidate yet... :) So there may still be bugs. :) Even
in a release candidate, we THINK there are no serious bugs... but it's
still just a candidate as more eyes on it might unearth hidden bugs...
>> I understand Basil being upset. But in a way, he "asked for it". When
>> one downloads a beta, one does so expecting to get into trouble, and to
>> report these bugs. And complaining strongly that a beta is buggy is,
>> well, to say the least, not what is expected of a user of a beta.
> Sure, but Basil didn't indicate that this was anything other than
> testing. He just outlined that he tried it and it went a bit pear
> shaped. I can completely understand his frustration.
I understand it as well. But I would have formulated it differently.
>> That kind of complaining *MIGHT* be justified *ONLY* once the product is
>> final... :)
> I disagree. Someone has to test this stuff before release. The more
> the merrier.
Yes. Testing is testing. Testers KNOW IN ADVANCE that things WILL go
wrong, and they report it without making a fuss. :)

Gilles