Oh, please, please, COME ON Ubuntu development people!

[chris]

On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 01:06 +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
> On 21 April 2011 00:45, chris <chevhq at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 23:19 +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
> >> On 16 April 2011 20:52, chris <chevhq at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Don't you think it would be nice to move this to sounder.  I am having
> >> > trouble getting my wheelchair over here.
> >> >  Picks up ear trumpet and waves peevishly at nurse aid to push in
> >> > required direction..............  mumbling about his first z80 processor
> >>
> >> We can't. The Powers that Be have just shut it down.
> >>
> > True, which makes me wonder about the whole Ubuntu/Canonical thing.
> > Fortunately as you know well, there are other distros, I am at the
> > moment playing with PCLinux OS, and Denbian stable.  On my production
> > machine I am switching to Mint 10.04.2 for the mean time whilst I see
> > what happens with Canonical.
> 
> Indeed.
> 
> I've been looking into what Clem Lefebvre is planning for Mint 11.
> Apparently, it will be based on GNOME 3, but with the traditional
> panel layout - no GNOME Shell. I didn't even realise this was
> possible, TBH. That certainly sounds like it will be worth a look for
> those who like neither Unity nor the GNOME Shell, or whose hardware
> isn't up to running them in their full composited glory.
> 
> There is also now a second Debian-based Mint, to go with LMDE, the
> Linux Mint Debian Edition, which currently uses a GNOME 2-based
> desktop. There is now Linux Mint Xfce 201104 as well, which like LMDE
> is also based directly off Debian and not Ubuntu.
> 
> There are more options opening up for people who wish to leave Ubuntu,
> Unity and GNOME 3 but keep the Debian base and the power of apt-get
> and dpkg.
> 
> I'm not planning to decamp just yet myself. I'm intrigued by Unity. I
> am playing with it in a VM and whereas I don't find it an obvious or
> intuitive environment, I will certainly give it a try on native
> hardware when it's released. I very much like Ubuntu's ease of use,
> polish, integration, the ready availability of drivers and so on - all
> things which it does much better than Debian. However, it seems to be
> more and more apparent to me that Ubuntu is not a democracy and we
> users must just take what we're given and not grumble about it.
> Otherwise you'll suddenly find that your desktop has changed
> radically, or your favourite mailing list is shut down. :¬(
> 
Thanks for the Information Liam.  I did not realise that Mint was this
active.  Not having broadband I have to rely on dialup. I( I live in way
rural NZ)
My experiences with Ubuntu over their removal of dialup from the
standard cd distribution was interesting to say the least.

It was at that point I decided other distros were worth investigating.

I had used redhat way back when, but like you initially found Ubuntu to
be polished etc.  Started using it about version 4 something from
memory.  Still have one old clunker toddling along with 6.04, and my
wife will not move from her old IBM running 8.04.

Have not looked at 11.04 yet, as I am waiting for the rc which a
university friend of mine will download and post to me.  So that will be
my first look at Unity.  Not feeling too encouraged at the moment I
confess.

Have registered with the url you sent me.
Regards Chris aka the kiwi