<OT> clouds

[Verde Denim]

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 8:19 PM, chris <chevhq at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 15:00 -0700, NoOp wrote:
> > On 05/06/2011 01:54 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 06:32, Ric Moore <wayward4now at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> I know this is slightly OT, but what is the experience using the
> Ubuntu
> > >> flavor of "the cloud" or just the "cloud" in general? I'm skeptical as
> > >> all heck. One of of Non-Profit team members wants to put our financial
> > >> data "out there" in google. Me, I'm going oh hell no! Are any of them
> > >> particularly safe? Is running your own Ubuntu "cloud" better than the
> > >> other offerings? More secure? The ultimate goal is to have being able
> to
> > >> collaborate on the books, live, at different locations connected to
> the
> > >> net. Me, I lean towards running our own server with a static IP
> address,
> > >> as being as secure as we can make it. Which might be better than the
> > >> commercial offerings. Plus, I'm making the case for Open Source,
> rather
> > >> than MS.
> > >>
> > >> I just want to pick some brains here, to guide my own thinking.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, Ric
> > >>
> > >
> > > Go read about the recent Amazon outages. Of course, that is on par
> > > with regular hosting. But the addition of water vapor-saturated air
> > > does _not_ make things more secure or resilient, no matter what the
> > > propaganda. Also, as with regular hosting, have local backups! A KDE
> > > dev just this week had his cloud host delete his backups by mistake.
> > > And I personally had g.ho.st cloud computing close shop with my data,
> > > with no way for me to access it. Luckily, I had local backups.
> >
> > Bows and flows of angel hair and ice cream castles in the air
> > and feather canyons everywhere, I've looked at clouds that way.
> > But now they only block the sun, they rain and snow on everyone.
> > So many things I would have done but clouds got in my way.
> >
> > I've looked at clouds from both sides now,
> > from up and down, and still somehow
> > it's cloud illusions I recall.
> > I really don't know clouds at all.
> > --- Joni Mitchell - Both Sides, Now
> >
> >
> Sorry Noop, I prefer the Cleo Lane /Johnny Dankworth version
> Cheers the kiwi
>
> NoOp - I would think that you make an historical reference there; were you
around when 'Clouds' (the LP) was released?

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