My request to ubuntu developer team
Craig White
craigwhite at azapple.com
Tue Nov 22 13:05:54 UTC 2011
On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 00:51 -0700, Art Edwards wrote:
> On 11/21/2011 07:40 PM, Craig White wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 18:05 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 14:47 -0800, Ernest Doub wrote:
> > >
> > > > Show me ~any~ handheld device [using the above definition] currently
> > > > in distribution that has the same speed and productivity capabilities
> > > > as the desktop models currently in distribution. You might be able to
> > > > make a case [it would still be a major stretch] if you chose an
> > > > absolute bottom end desktop box and the most bleeding edge handheld
> > > > but not if you are comparing averages.
> > > > The desktop will have the advantage in productivity until there is a
> > > > major technological breakthrough requiring at least an order of
> > > > magnitude reduction in "real estate" required for a given level of
> > > > computing power.
> > > ----
> > > OK - this is actually quite easy.
> > >
> > > Quad core Tegra 3 processor
> > ----
> > forgot the link ;-(
> >
> > http://asustransformerprime.net/asus-transformer-prime/
> >
> >
> So I looked at the link, and it doesn't answer the question. It is a
> quad-core running at 2.0 GHz. This is ~2003 desktop performance, but
> wait.. there is a whole GB of memory, and 16 GB of internal storage,
> just like my USB stick! I think we are not defining productivity
> consistently. I use my desktop (and laptop) to do large, scientific
> calculations. I also use it to write papers for journals. I can also
> browse the web and show videos. This is what I mean by productivity.
> There is no tablet that comes close to doing all of those things, so
> they fall under the toy category for me. So now Ubuntu puts a toy
> interface on their desktop.
----
We are talking about transitional products that are highly portable and
are capable of doing the 80-90% of what people need from a computer...
Web/E-mail/Games/Media.
The market is looking for a fast, portable device which is why the
netbooks first and now the tablets are so popular. Development simply
follows the money and there are a lot of sales and a lot more potential
sales in these devices than there are for full blown laptops.
----
> This is why so much of this argument is so specious. The Unity
> interface (and gnome-3 as well) is going for the newbie market at the
> expense of the established linux community. I don't buy the argument
> that they are changing because of the windoze patents. They are now
> encroaching on the Apple look and feel. Are you saying it is better to
> slime off of one than the other? Are you saying that Apple will be
> more forgiving than Microsoft? Really? Also, I don't buy that gnome 2
> was big and unwieldy and gnome 3 won't be. If so, what aren't they
> doing that they used to? What features will be missing? If they have
> the same features, but the software organization is better, that
> doesn't speak to the new look. It is only to make desktops look like
> tablets, and this, at the loss of transparency. Just try to find
> things as easily on unity or gnome 3 desktop as on the gnome 2
> desktop.
>
> Just to let you know that I will be embracing change. I'm going to
> look at gentoo, and at Debian. I'm hopeful that these will be the last
> refuge of the original linux community.
----
You can change to any other Linux distribution you want but you can't
change the reality that Gnome-2 has been abandoned and will be
eliminated from all of the distributions in time. You will ultimately
have to use something else regardless of distribution.
Craig
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