ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 93, Issue 57

Wed May 16 04:20:39 UTC 2012

On 05/09/2012 04:01 PM, ubuntu-users-request at lists.ubuntu.com wrote:
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>     1. RE: Corrupt 12.04 automatic update (compdoc)
>     2. Re: Corrupt 12.04 automatic update (Mika Suomalainen)
>     3. Re: Corrupt 12.04 automatic update (Colin Law)
>     4. RE: Corrupt 12.04 automatic update (compdoc)
>     5. Re: change permissions to copy pictures into backgrounds
>        (Gilles Gravier)
>     6. RE: change permissions to copy pictures into backgrounds
>        (Jake Maier)
>     7. Re: change permissions to copy pictures into backgrounds
>        (Colin Law)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 09:16:11 -0600
> From: "compdoc"<compdoc at hotrodpc.com>
> To: "'Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions'"
> 	<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: RE: Corrupt 12.04 automatic update
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>> "The application Unity 2D Panel has closed unexpectedly"
> Unfortunately, these little crashes are normal, at the moment. They will fix
> them eventually, so hang in there...
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 18:23:31 +0300
> From: Mika Suomalainen<mika.henrik.mainio at hotmail.com>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Corrupt 12.04 automatic update
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> 09.05.2012 18:16, compdoc kirjoitti:
>>> "The application Unity 2D Panel has closed unexpectedly"
>> Unfortunately, these little crashes are normal, at the moment. They
>> will fix them eventually, so hang in there...
>>
>>
> If they are normal, there is probably bug report about the subject,
> which you could link.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 16:24:37 +0100
> From: Colin Law<clanlaw at googlemail.com>
> To: compdoc at hotrodpc.com, "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for
> 	general discussions"<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: Corrupt 12.04 automatic update
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> On 9 May 2012 16:16, compdoc<compdoc at hotrodpc.com>  wrote:
>>> "The application Unity 2D Panel has closed unexpectedly"
>> Unfortunately, these little crashes are normal, at the moment. They will fix
>> them eventually, so hang in there...
> The impression I got from the OP's message is that his machine is
> unusable as it keeps crashing, and he is unable to do updates.  This
> is certainly not normal.
>
> Colin
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 09:37:25 -0600
> From: "compdoc"<compdoc at hotrodpc.com>
> To:<mika.henrik.mainio at hotmail.com>, "'Ubuntu user technical support,
> 	not for general discussions'"<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: RE: Corrupt 12.04 automatic update
> Message-ID:<001f01cd2df9$a2789310$e769b930$@hotrodpc.com>
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>> If they are normal, there is probably bug report about the subject, which
> you could link.
>
> Installing 12.04 from scratch on a few AMD systems is causing these same
> errors for me, and I see others complaining about them.
>
> However, the systems are still useable so Ive ignored them. Ubuntu has
> recently updated several desktop components, so I haven't yet noticed if the
> errors are gone.
>
> But they will be.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 17:53:28 +0200
> From: Gilles Gravier<ggravier at fsfe.org>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: change permissions to copy pictures into backgrounds
> Message-ID:<4FAA92F8.9030403 at fsfe.org>
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> Hi!
>
> On 09/05/2012 15:32, Knapp wrote:
>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Gilles Gravier<ggravier at fsfe.org>  wrote:
>>> Hi, Jake!
>>>
>>> On 09/05/2012 13:47, Jake Maier wrote:
>>>> Aware of the danger that I'll be shunned from this list for the rest of my
>>>> live I still have a question on this issue. No I don't want to have naked
>>>> people on my wallpaper but I am the only one to use my computer. There is
>>>> nobody in my house except my cat, and I think that there are a whole lot of
>>>> people out there who use their computer as a single user with none around to
>>>> share it.
>>>> Why can't there be a simple bypass of all the unnecessary security for these
>>>> in my opinion quite common situations. I understand that there are necessary
>>>> security issues which apply everywhere.
>>>>
>>>> I just switched to Ubuntu leaving windows because I got so annoyed with it.
>>>> There are many things already I see on Ubuntu where I was pleasantly
>>>> surprised, but I didn't understand why Windows couldn't deal better with
>>>> single users and I don't quite understand it that Ubuntu has not an easy
>>>> bypass for single users.
>>>> I hope keeping this issue alive does not annoy anyone.
>>>> Thanks for your time
>>>> Jake
>>> Ubuntu is made for everybody, based on a time-proven design and
>>> architecture : Linux / UNIX. Not just for you. :)
>>>
>>> So it's security model is designed for the whole lot of people who use
>>> it. Not just you.
>>>
>>> The "bypass mechanism" you want is called sudo, or gksudo. Use that
>>> command to prefix the copy command you will use to copy the files to
>>> where you want them.
>>>
>>> Windows has a different mecanism. You can basically mess up the whole
>>> machine without being asked anything... :) Not my favorite way of
>>> securing a system, but certainly makes a LOT of things easier. Including
>>> messing with it.
>>>
>>> The rule with Ubuntu is simple. If it's a SYSTEM area, you need to have
>>> management rights, and prove that with a password. If it's your stuff,
>>> you do what you want with it. If it's shared amongst users, owner sets
>>> the permissions and rights...
>>>
>>> Gilles.
>> I found a best of both worlds workaround for the security problem.
>> A good password is long and is made up of random numbers, letters and signs.
>> A good password is HARD to remember but who wants that???? So we end
>> up with passwords like sex and bob and god.
>> This leads to computer system that is really easy to break into but
>> also easy to use.
>> My answer is easy AND it keeps your security high provide not everyone
>> does it because the password is in the open for anyone that knows were
>> to look. You could fix this problem but as long as no one knows about
>> it, no problem.
>> So my answer is Easystroke. You just install it and then make a mouse
>> sign that automatically types your password for you.
>> You click the line where you need the password and then draw our sign
>> and press enter. As I said the big hole is that the password is stored
>> in Easystroke in the clear and anyone getting into the user area can
>> find it!!!!! So pick your security level and live with the problems it
>> makes. BTW if you are using this method, I suggest you unplug your
>> modem when you are not on the computer and make sure the fire wall is
>> strong and running. Also make sure to back up your important data!!
>> The cloud is great for this but do encrypt your  data with gpg before
>> saving it in the cloud.
>>
> Not sure I get the point of your message.
>
> Gilles.
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 15:38:30 -0400
> From: "Jake Maier"<j.m at jmforestry.com>
> To: "'Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions'"
> 	<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: RE: change permissions to copy pictures into backgrounds
> Message-ID:<00e601cd2e1b$52018b40$f604a1c0$@m at jmforestry.com>
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>> I found a best of both worlds workaround for the security problem.
>> A good password is long and is made up of random numbers, letters and
> signs.
>> A good password is HARD to remember but who wants that???? So we end up
> with passwords like sex and>bob and god.
>> This leads to computer system that is really easy to break into but also
> easy to use.
>> My answer is easy AND it keeps your security high provide not everyone does
> it because the password is>in the open for anyone that knows were to look.
> You could fix this problem but as long as no one knows>about it, no
> problem.
>> So my answer is Easystroke. You just install it and then make a mouse sign
> that automatically types>your password for you.
>> You click the line where you need the password and then draw our sign and
> press enter. As I said the>big hole is that the password is stored in
> Easystroke in the clear and anyone getting into the user>area can find
> it!!!!! So pick your security level and live with the problems it makes. BTW
> if you are>using this method, I suggest you unplug your modem when you are
> not on the computer and make sure the>fire wall is strong and running. Also
> make sure to back up your important data!!
>> The cloud is great for this but do encrypt your  data with gpg before
> saving it in the cloud.
>> --
>> Douglas E Knapp
>
>
> Thanks Douglas.
> I was looking for exactly this kind of program for since I switched to
> Ubuntu.
> Great
> Jake
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 21:01:08 +0100
> From: Colin Law<clanlaw at googlemail.com>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support,	not for general discussions"
> 	<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: change permissions to copy pictures into backgrounds
> Message-ID:
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> On 8 May 2012 17:39, Thomas Blasejewicz<thomas at s7.dion.ne.jp>  wrote:
>> (2012/05/09 1:11), compdoc wrote:
>>>> owner: Thomas Blasejewicz
>>> I don't understand that. In the Linux distros I've known, you cannot have
>>> a
>>> user name that contains capital letters. Nor have I ever seen a username
>>> containing 2 names separated by a space.
>>>
>>> Maybe you're being too descriptive, and 'thomas' is the actual owner?
>>>
>>>
>>>> the "default folder" for wallpapers appears to be:
>>>> /usr/share/backgrounds
>>>> owner: root
>>>> group: root
>>> If the folder is owned by root, then use sudo to move any files into that
>>> folder, and change permissions if necessary...
>>>
>> Click on the "Pictures" folder that was already there (I did not create it)
>> and look at properties:
>> thomas - Thomas Blasejewicz
>> THAT is what I get on my screen as "owner"
>>
>>>> "use sudo to move any files ..."
>> I am trying (for hours already), but have no success at all.
>>
>> hold on ... I have just (for reasons unknown) succeeded in copyint my
>> pictures.
>> Fine.
>>
>> BUT, they do NOT show up when I open "Appearance ->  Look ->  Wallpapers
>> Only those "default images" show.
>> Why?
> Just to tie up the loose end here, in order for images to appear in
> the default image set in the Appearance app it is not enough just to
> copy them to /usr/share/backgrounds.  In fact there is nothing special
> about images in that folder, it is just a place to save the images.
> The default images (I believe) are actually determined by the contents
> of the file /usr/share/gnome-background-properties/precise-wallpapers.xml.
>   In order to add new images to the default set details would have to
> be added to this file.  The images themselves could apparently be
> anywhere.
>
> To see what is in that file, in a terminal type
> cat /usr/share/gnome-background-properties/precise-wallpapers.xml
> If you want to edit it you can do it (but I advise against this) by
> gksu gedit /usr/share/gnome-background-properties/precise-wallpapers.xml
> but if you mess up the format then I don't know what will happen, so I
> would advise keeping a copy of the original file.
>
> Colin
>
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