12.04.2 LTS, new install, network broken

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 07 July 2013 22:55:13 C de-Avillez did opine:

> On Sun, 7 Jul 2013 15:24:56 -0400
> 
> Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday 07 July 2013 15:03:45 C de-Avillez did opine:
> > > On Sun, 7 Jul 2013 18:18:17 +0100
> > > 
> > > Colin Law <clanlaw at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 7 July 2013 14:17, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com> wrote:
> > > > > My whole point in that is:  If it cannot do the job its
> > > > > purported to be assigned, how did it ever get past QC?
> > > > 
> > > > I don't think others have this problem so it must be something
> > > > specific to your setup.
> > > 
> > > And, so, this begs a question.
> > > 
> > > Gene, why don't you help QA-ing Ubuntu? It seems you have an
> > > environment/computer/setup that Just Seems To Fail. It would be
> > > really nice to find out what is wrong in your case and -- who knows
> > > -- even add a test for it.
> > > 
> > > We certainly more than welcome all the help we can get.
> > 
> > I am sure you can.  So would Ric, if he had more spare hardware at
> > home, but the really big iron he keeps up isn't his.  The secret is
> > to pick out the clues to get an idea of what's busted when one of us
> > old farts goes off on you.
> 
> I take exception on two points here:
> 
> (1) someone going off on me: I take care to keep a decent level, and I
> refuse to read attacks;
> (2) "pick up the clues": why should I have to sieve out the gratuitous
> attacks to find something worthy? Not productive, for me. Opinions will
> vary, of course.
> 
> <snip/>
> 
> ..C..

OTOH, if I don't tell the whole blow by blow, I'm withholding info.  That 
isn't cool either.

And I have some more info.

Both the ubuntu 12.04.2 cd, and the kubuntu 12.04.2 dvd, if you take the 
try it branch on the first small screen, will then allow one to properly 
setup the networking so it works fine, and if you then install from the 
install icon, networking continues to work well.

So that then indicates its something in the right hand branch, the "install 
now" selection of that first screen, about the size of a postcard.  Doing 
it that way flat doesn't work for either disk.  I have the kubuntu 12.04.2 
install done, and have copied about 50 Gb of my stuff to the new drive.  
The only thing I noted was that the icon install method asked me if I 
wanted to download updates as it installed, and I put a check mark in that 
check box.

But when I did the initial reboot, and found I did have networking, the 
next thing I did was "apt-get install synaptic midnight-commander". I then 
fired up synaptic, had it reload, and it updated another 560 something 
packages, as if no updates had been pulled in during the install.

Barring some real fubar, I should have much of the stuff I use here, re-
installed and working by this time tomorrow night.

FWIW, using muon to handle what I've done with synaptic, I would still be 
doing things one package at a time a week from now.  Does it have a reload 
option someplace?  I didn't find one.

Thanks again C., and whoever it was that mentioned using the install icon 
once it was fully booted from the optical media.  That was the Magic 
Twanger.

IMO?  The first little screen's removal, forcing it to be fully booted 
before the installation is offered/contemplated, is the best, and probably 
least man hours needed to do the fix.

Cheers, Gene
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