only one ping from router

[Nils Kassube]

Tom H wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Nils Kassube <kassube at gmx.net> wrote:
> > Tom H wrote:
> >> It's better to use "ip a" (short of "ip address show") because
> >> "ifconfig" is obsolete.
> > 
> > Do you have a reference for that allegation? It seems that Ubuntu
> > doesn't know about it - this is from a 13.04 machine:
> > 
> > $ grep -r ifconfig /etc/init /etc/init.d
> > /etc/init/network-interface.conf:   ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up || true
> > $ grep -r 'ip ' /etc/init /etc/init.d
> > $
> > 
> > Granted, this is not necessarily an exhaustive research but I also
> > briefly tried to find something with the help of $SEARCH_ENGINE.
> > Indeed there was a two year old page claiming that "On Linux
> > ifconfig is obsolete" with a reference to "man ifconfig". However
> > if I run "man ifconfig" on a 13.04 machine, it isn't mentioned that
> > ifconfig is obsolete.
> 
> Old habits die hard. The maintainer of
> "/etc/init/network-interface.conf" ought to be told that he's still
> using ifconfig... If he's not one of these "I'll keep on using the
> tools that I've been using since I first started using Linux/Unix,"
> he'll change it.
> 
> For the record, "/etc/init.d/bind9" also uses ifconfig. And there may
> be others.

I don't have bind9 installed and therefore didn't find that one.

> See this 2009 post [1] for the obsoletion of net-tools.

> [1]
> http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/net-> tools

Thanks for the pointer. Ubuntu 13.04 has many packages which depend on 
the net-tools package. It seems like it takes a long time until an 
obsolete package actually gets replaced. Then I suppose I have a lot of 
time left to learn the use of the new tool. Anyway, thanks for the 
clarification.


Nils