Probably stupid question, but

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 04 September 2013 09:47:27 Oliver Grawert did opine:

> hi,
> 
> On Mi, 2013-09-04 at 08:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Ok, for starters, all the gui tools to configure it run as the user,
> > and therefore cannot modify the files involved.
> 
> That's a completely wrong assumption, i suggest you read up about dbus
> and interprocess communication on modern linux :)
> 
> ciao
> 	oli

This is as always when NM is being discussed, a he said/she said argument 
with nobody being willing to admit the install from the ncurses screen is 
broken.  Several of us have now pointed out where the problem starts, and 
with one exception a few weeks back up the log, when somebody made the 
mistake of asking which installer I used, its always our fault.

If you don't want it to be a continuous bone of contention, then stop the 
mistaken install by taking the first ncurses base install requester out of 
the boot sequence.  If it can't be fixed so that works, and quite a few 
have confirmed that it doesn't, take the trouble making option out of the 
boot/syslinux script, wherever it lives.

That way the people can't screw up the install with a broken installer, it 
will probably work, and you can quit calling those that use that first 
screen (I have done 3 Lucid LTS installs that way here, and had to fix them 
all, my way).

Until someone can admit that the installer from the ncurses screen at boot 
up is hopelessly broken, this conversation is pointless.

I am damned tired of being called an idiot when the network setup using 
that portion of the installer cannot obtain a working network, and it 
cannot be fixed any other way than old school after the initial reboot.

Then you, who have no more connection or say so that I do, have the gall to 
call us dummies who haven't a clue what we are talking about when we can't 
make it work any way that doesn't lock NM out of the stadium.

One would think that a thread as immortal as this one would at some point 
be brought to the attention of someone with the power to fix it.  Sadly, it 
appears the network hasn't reached into the actual farm of cubicles where 
this stuff emerges from.

Cheers, Gene
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