[libreoffice-users] Linux alternative help&support

[Johnny Rosenberg]

2015-07-18 19:09 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies <tomcecf at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi :)
> I think this mailing list is often quite helpful about wider issues than it
> is meant for.
>
> This mailing list has been quite supportive of people with questions about
> various versions of Linux.  I really like it when someone who has been a
> huge help to others about technical issues in LibreOffice is then supported
> by others in return.
>
>
> My history with Linux ...
> It took me a few goes before i found which version of Linux suited me
> most.  I'm very much a point&click user so i went with "Gateway" (or
> user-friendly) distros to start with.  Mostly they are all good and so just
> settling with anything is good but sometimes trying a different flavour
> makes things feel more comfortable.
>
> Mageia (formerly Mandriva in the same way that LibreOffice was formerly
> OpenOffice) felt magical to me, fresh from Windows, but i didn't like the
> blues in the default theme at the time.  Wolvix was a really friendly and
> tiny team.  I could imagine meeting them at certain types of gigs and
> enjoying beers and moshing.  But Slackware is not hugely easy for
> point&click users so i tried a few others and settled on Ubuntu as being my
> main distro while still doing a bit more distro-hopping.
>
> Something i really liked was that during that stumbling around
> distro-hopping stage nothing i learned was wasted.  Even just using Wolvix
> and it's excellent installer helped me learn how to use Mageia and others
> better.  The biggest step was from Windows but moving around between
> different distros felt like everything stayed the same except the wallpaper
> and other fairly trivial bits&bobs.
>
>
> Over the last 7-8 years i have accidentally learned a few command-line
> things so i would have to remember to use different names for a few things
> but the basic grammar of the commands remains the same and most of the
> commands are identical in all versions of linux.
>
> I have also accidentally learned how to ssh into remote machines (at least
> ones i've been given passwords for!) to do a bit of systems administration
> on multiple machines at once and i can rsync or scp to rapidly upload stuff
> to the company's web-hosters or between desktops or between servers - all
> with the same commands regardless of which version/flavour of linux they
> use.
>
> I've also learned how to create virtual machines to use Windows inside
> Linux gaining the advantage of Linux solid foundations and minimal use of
> resources to abstract-away some of the typical problems of installing
> Windows.
>
> Plus i would have never learned about powerful tools to clone drives and
> many other things that i would probably never have learned, or that having
> learned once would have to keep relearning new tools in order to keep doing
> the same thing.
>
>
>
> Wine and "Play on Linux" and Crossover and others are all great ways of
> running Windows programs within Linux without needing an extra layer(s) for
> emulators or virtual machines.
>
> Some versions/flavours of Linux can be installed within Windows, such as
> Ubuntu's "Wubi" and Puppy-Linux but that seems to be an odd way of doing
> it.
>
> Using Windows as the base and then having another OS within that either as
> the Wubi or the Puppy-Linux way or inside a virtual machine seems a bit
> weird to me.  Windows is not really a good stable foundation plus it tends
> to be quite heavy in it's use of resources and doesn't have a reputation of
> "playing well with others".  Linux is much stronger on bare-metal so you'd
> be missing some of the key advantages of Linux and really kinda combining
> the worst aspects of both types of OSes.  However, many people have a lot
> of success with it and it might be a good way-in.
>
>
> So, anyway, i hope that people do ask more questions about how to use Linux
> on this mailing list and that we are able to help signpost people to the
> best places to ask questions or even just quickly help directly solve the
> problem.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)


I think people will be somewhat frustrated if people suddenly starts
to ask questions about other things than what the list was meant for.
If you use Ubuntu, there already is a list:
ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com

I'm sure there are lists for most GNU/Linux-distributions, but since I
currently use Ubuntu, that is the only list that I use.

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> On 18 July 2015 at 16:00, Gary Dale <garydale at torfree.net> wrote:
>
> > On 18/07/15 04:31 AM, yahoo-pier_andreit wrote:
> >
> >> On 07/18/2015 09:32 AM, Thomas wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2015/07/18 6:50, Jack Wallen wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thank you for sharing that, Charles (I'm the author). Glad to know it
> >>>> resonated.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jack
> >>>>
> >>> Thank YOU, Mr. Wallen, for your article.
> >>> Although I know, this does not belong here, just a word.
> >>> I have been trying (STRUGGLING) to move away from MS and get friendly
> >>> with Linux for 7-8 years now!
> >>> So far with little success. Yet, I still keep trying.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> many thanks jack, :-)
> >> I'm not an expert, I start to use linux, basically opensuse, in 2000, and
> >> I agree with thomas, my son, my sister, my nephews uses linux, but, if I
> >> didn't install it and configure it and solved the problems that rised up
> >> and sometimes continues to pop up, they never started to use linux. too
> >> complicate... :-)
> >>
> >
> > The same issue afflicts Windows. It's just that Windows usually comes
> > pre-installed. Having performed a lot of installs of both types, I've found
> > the Linux installs to be simpler and a lot faster. Windows may get to the
> > login screen a bit faster but then you've got interminable updates to
> > install with reboots needed between most of them.
> >
> > As for needing assistance, I find a lot more problems cropping up with
> > Windows than with Linux. And yes, most end-users aren't equipped to deal
> > with them but that isn't dependent on the operating system. However fixing
> > Windows problems is more difficult and sometimes even fruitless (e.g.
> > Windows Updates that mysteriously fail).
> >
> > I've used Linux pretty much exclusively (except for an income tax program
> > that I haven't got to work in wine) for 18 years. I find Windows to be
> > awkward and limiting. And after looking at Windows 8, it seems to be
> > getting worse, not better.
> >
> >
>
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