Another rant

Liam Proven lproven at gmail.com
Fri Nov 17 14:03:14 UTC 2017


On 17 November 2017 at 14:46, Tom H <tomh0665 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 7:17 AM, Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 17 November 2017 at 08:30, Xen <list at xenhideout.nl> wrote:
>
> Aren't wikis supposed to be user-contributed / user-edited /
> user-proofed / user-curated? In Fedora and Gentoo (and I vaguely
> remember Arch too), I pointed out an error on their respective wikis
> and I was told "get an account and edit the page."

Yes, but some distros are more community-oriented than others. SUSE is
primarily a paid, corporate product.

> OpenSUSE's hurting its community without much gain. It could have a
> "although hosted here, this is user-contributed" disclaimer on every
> page if it's worried about accuracy and correctness.

Not enough if your users are paying you lots for support. :-(

Again, this is just my take, not any kind of official company statement.

> I always wonder how Arch does it (and why others can't). Its wiki's
> comprehensive and up to date. It's a rolling distribution so it
> doesn't have to account for older releases. But I doubt that it's the
> only reason.

Because things like Arch and Gentoo aren't for noobs. They're for
experts and those who want to get their hands dirty.

Ubuntu is the opposite.

Red Hat is a bit more schizophrenic, as it has Fedora and CentOS but
its money comes from RHEL.


> Probably. There's often good information on Stack and similar
> platforms but information's not as discoverable. Also, if I had to
> pick one weakness, I'd nominate the fact that posts can be edited. So
> you can read comment #N on a comment #N-m and #N-m's been edited to
> account for #N but there's not enough history in either for you to
> figure out what was posted initially and why it was partially or
> completely wrong.

Fair point. I presume they know what they're doing but their systems
for voting, moderation etc. seem very strange to me.

> +1. I got a new laptop recently and I decided to use Windows before
> wiping it out. It's at least as much work to set up as Ubuntu and the
> interface inconsistencies are horrendous. For anything basic, you have
> the Win10 interface but if you want a more advanced setting, you're
> relegated to the Win7 interface. At least, unlike Gnome, you don't
> have to figure out what the gsettings invocation is...

Bear in mind that Win10 is a moving target. It has had 3 major
editions so far: original, Anniversary Update, Creator's Update, and
now Fall Creator's Update. All are a bit different. More and more
stuff is being moved into the Modern apps, Modern settings app, etc.,
and old Win7-style stuff is disappearing.

For the best experience, keep it as up to date as you can.

If you can't, then there is a special very-slow-moving corporate
edition, but it's hard to get.

https://www.howtogeek.com/273824/windows-10-without-the-cruft-windows-10-ltsb-explained/


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