Gnome replaces Unity
Xen
list at xenhideout.nl
Sun Oct 15 17:04:09 UTC 2017
Liam Proven schreef op 15-10-2017 18:04:
> You do a lot of rambling and self-contradiction, you know that? In one
> line, you agree with me; in the next, you say I am talking nonsense;
> in the next, something random and apparently unconnected and possibly
> paranoiac... and repeat. It's very hard to follow and to work out if
> you have an overall point here.
>
> I will attempt to respond, though.
>
> On 15 October 2017 at 16:21, Xen <list at xenhideout.nl> wrote:
>> Liam Proven schreef op 15-10-2017 15:25:
>>>
>>> I'd probably agree -- _if_ they knew Windows first.
>>
>> Otherwise they would never have started using a computer.
>
> Not even remotely, no.
>
> There are 7 billion people on the planet. About a third are on the
> internet. About half have never touched a computer.
>
>> We can basically agree that they were trying to be different without
>> good
>> reason, whether that was because of legal threat or because of
>> just....
>> wanting to be not-windows.
>
> Yes.
>
>> There is no way you can create something good if the thing you would
>> ordinarily create, is not allowed.
>
> Utter nonsense.
Liam, I don't know if you're insulting me because I've shown you wrong
or something or you have no arguments against this, or against me, but
the thing you are going to say is so devoid of meaning it's not even
funny.
> Programming is a creative art.
That means that you create what you want to create.
Not what you don't want to create.
I'm sorry I'm not gonna have this argument. Like we say in Dutch: "this
is about as related as a pig and plyers".
Or "this is really about nothing".
> There are multiple genres of all of them. In music, from rock to jazz
> to classical to early to plainsong to rap to brass-band to folk...
> there are hundreds, thousands, of forms. Many freely borrow from one
> another. Sometimes they cross over or merge, sometimes, they diverge
> and split.
Yes and all of them create what they like, not what they don't like.
I really don't know why you are so much in denial about this.
> This January, I flew from my home in Brno to Sofia in Bulgaria. The
> cheapest route was to take a train to Vienna, fly to Geneva, and
> thence to Sofia. It took a long time, but it was pleasant,
> comfortable, and inexpensive. I got to spend some very old Swiss
> francs, and I got a break, a good meal, a couple of beers and a copy
> of Charlie Hebdo.
We are talking about end results here.
If you want to spend the next 30 years trying to arrive at that end
result in that way, good luck.
> [Totally irrelevant wibbling cut]
Liam, you are just being an asshole. I'm done.
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