18.04 = circular login problem on system freeze

[Liam Proven]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 at 18:57, Little Girl <littlergirl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I misread what Liam had written and read "vertical taskbars" to mean
> "vertical panels" when I responded. MATE can do panels, but falls
> over on some of the things that can be put into the panels.

No, that's fine, I absolutely understand. Unfortunately, this is the
default assumption: it's what most programmers of desktop environments
assume.

For non-critical text, vertical alignment is doable.

For instance, I quite liked the wm2 window manager, years ago:

>
> >He also might miss vertically features of the panel. Instead of
> >positioning mate-panel completely to the left or right side, move it
> >somewhere between left side and middle or between right side and
> >middle, while used vertically.
>
> Interesting. I'm not able to do that. Mine aren't draggable and don't
> offer the ability to define an offset.
>
> >The above examples show two issues I found out by just running
> >mate-panel for a few seconds.
> >
> >However, it's possible to use Mate and to add any other panel.
>
> I hadn't considered combining different panel types. That might be a
> good thing for Liam to play around with so he can use the desktop he
> prefers with the panels from the desktop that does them best.
>
> >Actually, on openbox I run two horizontal panels at the same time on
> >top, lxpanel and fbpanel, the combination of those two panels allows
> >things that are impossible when using mate-panel or xfce4-panel,
> >furthermore I add items to the panels to run scripts, to select
> >between an LCD display, VGA monitor or dual mode, all with different
> >settings such as different resolutions and among other things, those
> >scripts handle the panels, so that the panels fit to the different
> >settings. If I would run Mate or Xfce4, I could use the same
> >combination of lxpanel and fbpanel. Nobody is forced to use Mate
> >with the mate-panel or Xfce4 with the xfce4-panel.
>
> I was able to run multiple panels stacked next to each other on MATE
> and put that into one of my screenshots.
>
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> Little Girl
>
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>
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