Power Suspend Issue on HP EliteBook 840 G6 Notebook & 18.04 - SOLVED

[Liam Proven]

On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 at 19:41, Ralf Mardorf via ubuntu-users
<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> wrote:

*Even _more_ wearily*

OK, point by blasted point.

> He's completely mistaken regarding my original replies. The vendor
> mentions on the original homepage that a different (Windows) computer
> could be used to extract the executable, hence it most likely could be
> done without a Windows install, by just extracting the executable using
> wine.

Wrong. Why? Because a bad firmware update can permanently destroy a
motherboard. It is absolutely not worth taking a change that an
unapproved, best-attempt emulator can reliably run an extraction.

I run MS Word under WINE. I can _see_ any corruption that might
happen. I can trivially easily verify that a document is good by
opening it in LibreOffice.

One cannot do so with a BIOS update. One is relying on checksums and
checksums can be fooled.

> There's no need for the OP to do it with the machine that should
> get the BIOS update.

This is so ill-advised I have no choice but to call it foolhardy.

> IOW I mentioned that it is very unusual nowadays

This is _precisely_ what I was addressing, explicitly and clearly. By
"very unusual" you mean "I have not seen it".

Others _have_ seen it.

Ralf, you run a budget motherboard with a Celeron in, as I recall,
replacing a decade-old machine.

I am guessing that you do not get to use expensive enterprise kit much.

I do.

What you are saying is _not true_ of all PC equipment. Unless your
experience runs from budget built-it-yourself kit up to entrprise
workstations up to high-end servers, _you do not know_.


> that the process to
> update the BIOS is complicated, usually no Windows or DOS is required
> anymore.

"Usually" is not good enough.

> The OP seems to have bad luck and seems to suffer from a corner
> case, but I covered this, too.

Not enough you did not, no.

> Liam suggested that users always should go with a dual-boot, Windows and
> Linux, because BIOS updates might require Windows on the machine that
> should get the BIOS update.

Yes.

> Windows is not for free as in beer. IMO suggesting to buy and install
> Windows, just to be able to do BIOS updates in corner cases is
> ridiculous.

You did not read or did not understand my message, then.

I said *nothing* about *buying* Windows.

• Windows 10 is a free upgrade from 7, 8 or 8.1. Yes, even now, in 2020.

• You do not need to upgrade; you can clean-install & activate with an
old 7/8/8.1 key.

• The ISO is a free download from Microsoft.com (i.e. guaranteed
genuine, no piracy or crack required)

• Many UEFI machines have the key in the firmware and self-activate
automatically. No key entry required.

• For older machines, especially laptops and business desktops, the
key is on a sticker on the case.

• You do not need to activate to do a BIOS upgrade. An unactivated
copy will do this fine. Un-activated Win10 is completely functional
and does not nag like Vista/7/8/8.1. It limits customisation instead.
MS has finally realised that a pool of cracked machines is a security
hazard and compromises herd immunity, just like antivaxxers do in
humans.

Now please stop giving harmful and dangerous advice.

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