The controversy around snaps is growing :-(

[Oliver Grawert]

hi,
Am Sonntag, den 03.05.2020, 20:56 +0200 schrieb Tom H:
> On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 11:33 PM Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> > This expresses some of my own concerns:
> > 
> > https://jatan.blog/2020/05/02/ubuntu-snap-obsession-has-snapped-me-off-of-it/
> 
> * Software center can’t install Flatpak apps
> 
> For the GUI, from the linked discourse.ubuntu.com: "For flatpak you
> just need to install gnome-software-plugin-flatpak like you do today.
> That would bring in the gnome-software as a deb, which will still be
> maintained."
> 
> To me, not being able to install Flatpaks by default on Ubuntu is
> like
> not being able to install RPMs on Ubuntu; except that in the case of
> Flatpaks, you can do so with a little work. 

... and funnily nobody notices that it is equally "hard" to get snap
support on fedora, snaps arent the default there and you need to
manually fiddle to get the supported ... it is simply a choice of
defaults ... this is linux ! just adjust them if you feel this is
needed for you ! 

;)

> * Browsing the Snap Store sucks
> 
> I don't use the software store GUIs.
> 
> 
> * Slow and forced Chromium snap
> 
> I've just installed the Chromium snap and it launches as quickly as
> my
> non-Snap Chrome, Chromium, and Firefox. My other Snap apps - Skype,
> Zoom - also launch quickly. The writer's been suspended from
> discourse.ubuntu.com, so I doubt his sincerity on the slowness point.

there is noticeable slowness on the very first start of a freshly
installed desktop app, simply because a bunch of user environment is
being set up then (i.e. chromium generates a per-user mime database on
first start) ... 
subsequent starts have a measurable (but not really noticeable) startup
delay in the half-second area ... there are a few threads on
forum.snapcraft.io discussing it (and discussing improvements) ...

shipping apps as compressed readonly filesystem blobs and maintaining
confinement around the executables at runtime sadly comes with a cost.
but IMHO (as someone who maintains a bunch of snaps) the benefit
prevails ... 

ciao
	oli
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