Solved - Re: How/where do I get hponcfg for Ubuntu 24?
Robert Moskowitz
rgm at htt-consult.com
Wed Jul 2 21:21:49 UTC 2025
On 7/2/25 1:29 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 at 21:10, Robert Moskowitz via ubuntu-users
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
>> I realized over the weekend that I really need to step up my game on using Ubuntu. It is clear that I will be using it a lot.
> Why?
>
>> I have 20+ years on CentOS and Fedora and how things are done there. I have no problem adding repos; I need to be as skilled with Ubuntu. So please bare with me, as I learn.
> Why are you switching?
It was long overdue to replace my home-grown email server:
http://medon.htt-consult.com/Centos7-mailserver.html
It was a disaster waiting to happen. I looked into iRedmail, but I was
struggling with AlmaLinux on my HPE Gen10+ and could not get it to set
up Raid. So the box sat for 2 years while I did other stuff. Then I
found Mail-in-a-Box, and for all its shortcomings, it does well enough.
But it is only Ubuntu.
Thus to get off of home-growing my email server to running something,
for the most part, click and install, it was on to Ubuntu.
Once Ubuntu in place for my mailserver, I turned my attention to fixing
up all my DNS servers. MiaB runs NDS as an authoritative server and I
still needed my local recursive server. My friends in the IETF (Rob
Austien, and Jim Reid) told me to use ubound. I have/had 4 armv7 boxes
here running CentOS7 that needed upgrading.
So do I only run Ubuntu for mail, or do I take the leap and get
comfortable with Ubuntu to better deal with my mailserver.
So now I have 5 boxes running Ubuntu. 4 are zboxnanos and one the Gen10+.
I will continue with Fedora on my notebook, but now all my servers are
Ubuntu and I can do the same on all of them. Once I learn what is
different from Centos...
So there you have a piece of my journey.
> They are very different distros run in very different ways. There are
> significantly philosophical differences.
>
> But while CentOS Linux is dead, and CentOS Stream isn't the same thing
> at all, there are alternatives.
>
> Rocky is pretty close to the old CentOS Linux.
>
> Alma is trying to improve the distro to bring it a bit closer to how
> things work in the free world. As in, where version-to-version
> upgrades are _normal_ and just work, where old hardware doesn't just
> stop working because some big business whose stuff you don't use said
> it wasn't supported any more.
I probably dived into Alma too soon and at the time Rocky did not
impress me. Well water under the bridge.
> I worked for RH. I do not much like the RH family of distros, myself.
> But they have their community.
I go back to Whitehat. I ran Centos1 on a notebook and stayed with
Centos on my notebook until Fedora6. I was active on the porting of
Fedora/Centos to armv7 (even RedSleeve on armv5). But that is now well
in the rearview mirror.
> Sure, I kind of prefer the Debian way, and Ubuntu makes Debian hurt less.
>
> But if you're steeped in CentOS then what's wrong with Alma Linux?
>
Probably now I could swing it. But, at least for now, I am trying to
live with Ubuntu and not dealing too much with its Debian roots.
Fun stuff!
Also I have a major project coming up:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-drip-dki/
See sec 6.
And I will need many boxes for the PKI. Being able to roll this in
Ubuntu may be critical for adoption.
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