setting up/converting windows 11-> ubuntu

[bruce]

Hi liam!!

You EU guys!! Expecting correct data!

My bad -- up a few days without sleep!

To your points

internal ssd/nvme 128G with base laptop

usb -- not usd!
  1tb usd extern drive
  1tb usb external drive sata (2.5" hdd in usb case) sata
 external, as the laptop doesn't have space/permit an additional
internal drive. HP changed over te last 6 months  -- so in order to
have the space I want, external is the solution. I'm good with this
solution, as opposed to a larger ssd

so --
 since 128 is the ssd with the laptop, probably not going to increase
as i'll have the 1tb external hdd
 - i recognize the need for both drives to operate.
 -this should be sufficient/doable, but would be tested

 -i'm not going to be going to 8 tb hdd anytime soon

 -as to the "reboot" without external drive causing issues, i fail to get this:
> Splitting OS and data is trivial but not if one is removable and so
> might not be connected. 1 accidental boot without the external drive
> connected and it's destroyed. Don't do this.
care to explain?? i get the system would be inoperable, but wouldn't
reconnecting/rebooting have a working system
 -would this not be a matter of (re)mounting the external drive

as far as "speed", usb connections should be sufficient.


thanks


On Sun, Jul 6, 2025 at 5:56 AM Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 6 Jul 2025 at 02:34, bruce <badouglas at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Looking for ideas/opinions. I'm getting a HP amd ryzen 5, with 128G
> > ssd, and a 1tb usd extern drive. The goal is to have ubuntu/OS on the
> > 128 SSD, and the rest of the data/dev processes/etc on the 1TB extern
> > drive.
> >
> > At the same time, I'm going to be setting up a backup process for the
> > SSD/hard drive. The backup process will be every X days.
> >
> > So, any thoughts/pointers on what the process could/should be?
> >
> > I'm seeing various sites, with diff opinions, so thought I'd post here
> > for input as well.
>
> Slightly struggling to understand here.
>
> 1.
>
> > 1tb usd extern drive
>
> USB, not USD as in $, right? Extern = external, obviously. The
> abbreviations make this tricky to follow especially when some of them
> are wrong!
>
> 2.
>
> Why external? It is worse in almost every way: slower, more expensive,
> more to go wrong.
>
> You give irrelevant detail in some places but not crucial detail.
> Example: you specify an internal SSD (but not the interface) but you
> do not specify the type of external drive. Do you mean SSD or HDD?
> NVMe or SATA or what? This is important to know but you don't mention
> it.
>
> 3.
>
> Why just 128GB? That is beyond tiny by 2025 standards. I buy used
> 128GB drives for about £10 for testbed machines but they are getting
> hard to get so small. That is supermarket USB key sized now.
>
> 4.
>
> Splitting OS and data is trivial but not if one is removable and so
> might not be connected. 1 accidental boot without the external drive
> connected and it's destroyed. Don't do this.
>
> 5.
>
> You can't have a drive as both part of your system _and_ for backup. I
> mean, it's possible but it's pointless. It's both much more fragile
> _and_ essentially useless as a backup because if the main drive fails
> you lose your backups as well.
>
> 6. With SSDs of any type it's a good plan to leave lots empty.  I
> explained this in a recent thread.
>
> 1TB is small by 2024 standards. I put a secondary data-only drive in
> my old iMac in 2023 and it was an 8TB HDD, bought cheap used on
> Amazon. 8TB SSD is perfectly doable now and the HDD feels so slow I'm
> considering it.
>
> There is a lot of detail in here, some missing, some contradictory,
> some just wrong, and overall it's confusing and inconsistent.
>
> Overall advice: don't. UI R DOIN IT WRONG as the kids used to say.
>
> If you have some ultra small form factor machine, budget on:
>
> * minimum 512MB but ideally 1-2TB internal NVMe SSD.
> * external, secondary storage, don't waste time on tiddly 1TB drives.
> Get a SATA 8 TB or so 3.5 HDD and use that for backups as it's not
> performance critical.
>
> You need to think about interfaces more. Research it, learn the
> differences, thing about speeds.
>
> Unless you are working on a very low budget then you are thinking in
> terms of sizes from a decade ago.  You need to revise your size
> estimates up substantially, e.g. by about 10x.
>
> You need to conceptually differentiate fast and slow, form factors not
> just capacities.
>
> E.g. SATA SSDs are 2.5" but you don't need 2.5" HDD for bulk storage.
> 3.5" is cheaper and bigger and more robust.
>
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