Email account that works for this mailing list _and without a cell phone number_

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2025-10-17 at 10:37 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> 
> Did you consider just biting the bullet and investing 20€ into a cheap
> pre-paid cellphone ? (I just had to get one for my mother and got her
> a Nokia 105 and Vodafone CallYa card on Amazon for 19,48€ total ...)
> 
> It's not like you need to use it for more than receiving these SMS
> after all and for banking stuff like paypal it actually makes a lot of
> sense to have two factor auth ...

Hi,

I may have to bite the bullet at some point, but I take the issue of
cell phones very seriously. The media always talk about it being a
serious issue, but it's not really taken seriously.

As far as two-factor authentication is concerned, there is OTP
authentication, voice SMS to landlines, and so on. People want mobile
phone numbers for completely different reasons.

Well, I guess that would be the so-called proper use of a cell phone, to
only use it to receive SMS authentication codes.

I've never heard anyone say that you just have to learn how to use
crystal meth properly. You could just take it when you're not feeling
well and otherwise put it aside, like a cell phone.

Seriously, though, when I step out my front door, among the 20 people I
encounter, there are most likely zero drug zombies, zero people paying
attention to traffic, but 20 smartphone zombies.

Being more or less forced by companies to use a cell phone to cope with
everyday life goes far beyond the sale of illegal drugs.

Regards,
Ralf