[l-ubuntu-ve] Cambio de Hora en Venezuela - Diferentes versiones de tzdata entre Ubuntu 14.04 y 15.04

Jaime Mora jmora en ubuntu.org.ve
Mie Mayo 4 21:37:59 UTC 2016 

Jesús lo mas recomendable es que hagas el upgrade a 16.04 LTS ya tiene el
tema del Huso Horario resuelto y otra serie de bondades

El 4 de mayo de 2016, 9:53, Angel Cipriano Márquez César <tigreven en gmail.com
> escribió:

> Buen día. El lunes realicé la actualización de 14.04 LTS a 16.04 LTS y al
> indicar la ubicación, automáticamente tomó la hora del nuevo huso horario.
> Respetuosamente sugiero que quienes tengan Ubuntu 14.04, si el equipo lo
> permite, realicen la actualización a Ubuntu 16.04. Para ello, utilicé  el
> terminal en super usuario y los comandos:
> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
> update-manager -d
>
> El proceso tarda aproximadamentes unas 2 horas (depende del hardware) y
> hasta ahora ha funcionado sin novedad.
> Saludos
>
> El 4 de mayo de 2016, 7:51, Gomez Huian <huian.gomez en cvg.com> escribió:
>
> > Saludos, yo resolví en mis Debian viejos de la siguiente manera:
> >
> > .- Descarga el timezone de: https://www.iana.org/time-zones el archivo
> > *Time Zone Data v. 2016d*
> >
> > .- Descomprimes el archivo en una carpeta temporal cualquiera
> >
> > .- Entras en el directorio donde descomprimiste y ejecutas #zic
> > southamerica como root
> >
> > .- y por ultimo copias el archivo /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Caracas en
> > /etc/localtime
> >
> >      cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Caracas /etc/localtime
> >
> > Avísame si te funciona
> >
> > Saludos
> >
> >
> > El 03/05/16 a las 14:22, Jesus Alfonzo Guevara Aguilar escribió:
> >
> > Hola Ricardo,
> >>
> >> Gracias por sacarme de ese lapsus, por alguna razón asociaba en mi mente
> >> las versiones .04 a las versiones LTS.
> >>
> >> Para solventar por el momento cambiaré el huso horario a La Paz -4:00.
> >>
> >> O veré si hago un release upgrade o en tal caso una instalación limpia.
> >>
> >> Gracias, saludos.
> >> On May 3, 2016 12:23, "Ricardo C. Fernández de C." <koshrf en gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Saludos,
> >>>
> >>> 15.04 no es LTS, tiene un tiempo de vida de un año a lo mucho y luego
> no
> >>> se mantiene, no vas a encontrar actualizaciones para 15.04, es la
> >>> diferencia entre LTS y no LTS.
> >>>
> >>> Y mi nombre no es Fernando.
> >>>
> >>> El 3/5/2016 a las 11:23 a. m., Jesus Alfonzo Guevara Aguilar escribió:
> >>>
> >>> Buenos Dias Fernando y a todos,
> >>>>
> >>>> Este es mi /etc/apt/sources.list , yo puedo ver que tengo
> >>>> varios repositorios de seguridad añadidos, deberian estar
> >>>> los que vienen por defecto, porque no he quitado ninguno.
> >>>>
> >>>> Al ver la primera linea cai en cuenta que estaba en el
> >>>>
> >>>> equipo con 15.04 y no en 14.04 como te habia dicho, pido
> >>>>   disculpas, igualmente el problema persiste.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> # deb cdrom:[Lubuntu 15.04 _Vivid Vervet_ - Release amd64 (20150422)]/
> >>>> vivid main multiverse restricted universe
> >>>>
> >>>> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to
> upgrade
> >>>> to
> >>>> # newer versions of the distribution.
> >>>> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid main restricted
> >>>> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid main restricted
> >>>>
> >>>> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
> >>>> ## distribution.
> >>>> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid-updates main
> restricted
> >>>> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid-updates main
> >>>> restricted
> >>>>
> >>>> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the
> >>>> Ubuntu
> >>>> ## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive
> >>>> any
> >>>> ## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
> >>>> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid universe
> >>>> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid universe
> >>>> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid-updates universe
> >>>> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid-updates universe
> >>>>
> >>>> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the
> >>>> Ubuntu
> >>>> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself
> as
> >>>> to
> >>>> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
> >>>> ## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
> >>>> ## security team.
> >>>> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid multiverse
> >>>> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid multiverse
> >>>> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid-updates multiverse
> >>>> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid-updates multiverse
> >>>>
> >>>> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
> >>>> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it
> >>>> includes
> >>>> ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful
> >>>> features.
> >>>> ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any
> >>>> review
> >>>> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
> >>>> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid-backports main
> >>>> restricted
> >>>> universe multiverse
> >>>> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid-backports main
> >>>> restricted universe multiverse
> >>>>
> >>>> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid-security main
> restricted
> >>>> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid-security main
> >>>> restricted
> >>>> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid-security universe
> >>>> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid-security universe
> >>>> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid-security multiverse
> >>>> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid-security
> multiverse
> >>>>
> >>>> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
> >>>> ## 'partner' repository.
> >>>> ## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical
> and
> >>>> the
> >>>> ## respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.
> >>>> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu vivid partner
> >>>> deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu vivid partner
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Gracias, saludos.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> *Jesús Alfonzo Guevara Aguilar*
> >>>> 0426-797.24.73
> >>>>
> >>>> *Electric Power Generation Operations and Maintenance Technician (O&M
> >>>> Technician)Proyecto Minero F.M.O Ciudad Piar *
> >>>>
> >>>> Venequip S.A. - Único distribuidor autorizado de Caterpillar en
> >>>> Venezuela
> >>>> Distribuidor de Equipos Cat Lift Trucks, Terex O&K, Terex Reedrill,
> >>>> Sullair, Grove, JLG, Metso, Taylor y Olympian
> >>>>
> >>>> Puerto Ordaz, Estado Bolivar, Venezuela
> >>>>
> >>>> 2016-05-03 4:21 GMT-04:00 Ricardo C. Fernández de C. <
> koshrf en gmail.com
> >>>> >:
> >>>>
> >>>> Saludos,
> >>>>
> >>>>> Este es el paquete para 14.04:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/tzdata
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Viene de security (revisa que tengas el repositorio
> >>>>> security.ubuntu.com
> >>>>> )
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Este es el changelog:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2016d-0ubuntu0.14.04/changelog
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Como puedes ver incluye el cambio al huso horario de Venezuela y el
> >>>>> cambio
> >>>>> se hizó el 20 de abril.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> * New upstream, affecting America/Caracas, Asia/Magadan, Asia/Tomsk.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> El 2/5/2016 a las 11:58 p. m., Jesus Alfonzo Guevara Aguilar
> escribió:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ejecute el comando,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> $ date +'%:z %Z'
> >>>>>> -04:30 VET
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Entonces, como tu dices debo tener un problema en los repositorios.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *Jesús Alfonzo Guevara Aguilar*
> >>>>>> 0426-797.24.73
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *Electric Power Generation Operations and Maintenance Technician
> (O&M
> >>>>>> Technician)Proyecto Minero F.M.O Ciudad Piar *
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Venequip S.A. - Único distribuidor autorizado de Caterpillar en
> >>>>>> Venezuela
> >>>>>> Distribuidor de Equipos Cat Lift Trucks, Terex O&K, Terex Reedrill,
> >>>>>> Sullair, Grove, JLG, Metso, Taylor y Olympian
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Puerto Ordaz, Estado Bolivar, Venezuela
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2016-05-02 17:12 GMT-04:30 Ricardo C. Fernández de C. <
> >>>>>> koshrf en gmail.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Corre este comando
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> date +'%:z %Z'
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sino te dice -4:00 VET tienes que reconfigurar tu tzdata para que
> use
> >>>>>>> VET.
> >>>>>>> El paquete 14.04 LTS ya tiene el cambio del horario y debió haberlo
> >>>>>>> tomado
> >>>>>>> exactamente el 1ero de este mes a las 2.30am.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Si cuando reconfiguras tzdata te sigue diciendo -4:30 entonces
> tienes
> >>>>>>> algún problema con tu repositorio y no se está jalando las
> >>>>>>> actualizaciones
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 2:29 PM, Jesus Alfonzo Guevara Aguilar <
> >>>>>>> jesusguevarautomotriz en gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hola Ricardo, muchas gracias por responder.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hice
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> $ sudo apt-get install --only-upgrade tzdata
> >>>>>>> [sudo] password for bapa3epa:
> >>>>>>> Reading package lists... Done
> >>>>>>> Building dependency tree
> >>>>>>> Reading state information... Done
> >>>>>>> tzdata is already the newest version.
> >>>>>>> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 9 not upgraded.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Habiendo previamente hecho
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> $ sudo apt-get update ,y
> >>>>>>> $ sudo apt-get upgrade
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Persiste el problema.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Saludos.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *Jesús Alfonzo Guevara Aguilar*
> >>>>>>> 0426-797.24.73
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> *Electric Power Generation Operations and Maintenance Technician
> (O&M
> >>>>>>> Technician)Proyecto Minero F.M.O Ciudad Piar *
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Venequip S.A. - Único distribuidor autorizado de Caterpillar en
> >>>>>>> Venezuela
> >>>>>>> Distribuidor de Equipos Cat Lift Trucks, Terex O&K, Terex Reedrill,
> >>>>>>> Sullair, Grove, JLG, Metso, Taylor y Olympian
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Puerto Ordaz, Estado Bolivar, Venezuela
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2016-05-02 1:08 GMT-04:00 Ricardo C. Fernández de C. <
> >>>>>>> koshrf en gmail.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Corre:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>   apt-get install --only-upgrade tzdata
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Tienes versiones diferente por que son versiones diferente de
> >>>>>>>> ubuntu.
> >>>>>>>> Te
> >>>>>>>> va a pasar en todos lados, ubuntu no hace regresión de versiones a
> >>>>>>>> LTS
> >>>>>>>> al
> >>>>>>>> menos que sea seguridad.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Si no actualizas tu tzdata ubuntu nunca va a saber que hubo un
> >>>>>>>> cambio
> >>>>>>>> en
> >>>>>>>> el huso horario de Venezuela a GMT-400
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On May 1, 2016, at 10:52 PM, Jesus Alfonzo Guevara Aguilar <
> >>>>>>>> jesusguevarautomotriz en gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Buenas Tardes Amigos, me dirijo a esta lista porque tengo un
> >>>>>>>> problema
> >>>>>>>> con
> >>>>>>>> el cambio de horario.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Tengo 2 equipos con Lubuntu, uno con 14.04 y otro 15.04.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> El equipo con Lubuntu 15.04 tiene la hora correcta.
> >>>>>>>> El equipo con Lubuntu 14.04 tiene 30 minutos de atraso.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Observe que los equipos tienen diferentes versiones del paquete
> >>>>>>>> tzdata.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> En Lubuntu 14.04 tengo:
> >>>>>>>> $ apt-cache policy tzdata
> >>>>>>>> tzdata:
> >>>>>>>>    Installed: 2015g-0ubuntu0.15.04
> >>>>>>>>    Candidate: 2015g-0ubuntu0.15.04
> >>>>>>>>    Version table:
> >>>>>>>>   *** 2015g-0ubuntu0.15.04 0
> >>>>>>>>          500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
> >>>>>>>> vivid-updates/main
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> amd64
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Packages
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>          500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
> >>>>>>>> vivid-security/main
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> amd64
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Packages
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>          100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> >>>>>>>>       2015c-1 0
> >>>>>>>>          500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid/main
> amd64
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Packages
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> En Lubuntu 15.04 tengo:
> >>>>>>>> $ apt-cache policy tzdata
> >>>>>>>> tzdata:
> >>>>>>>>    Installed: 2016d-0ubuntu0.14.04
> >>>>>>>>    Candidate: 2016d-0ubuntu0.14.04
> >>>>>>>>    Version table:
> >>>>>>>>   *** 2016d-0ubuntu0.14.04 0
> >>>>>>>>          500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
> >>>>>>>> trusty-updates/main
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> amd64
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Packages
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>          500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
> >>>>>>>> trusty-security/main
> >>>>>>>> amd64
> >>>>>>>> Packages
> >>>>>>>>          100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> >>>>>>>>       2014b-1 0
> >>>>>>>>          500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main
> amd64
> >>>>>>>> Packages
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Solucione el problema temporalmente, haciendo
> >>>>>>>> # sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> y seleccionando la zona horaria de "America/La_Paz".
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Por favor guiarme sobre Como podria solucionar este problema?,
> >>>>>>>> porque
> >>>>>>>> no
> >>>>>>>> tienen la misma version de tzdata.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Gracias de antemano, Saludos.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *Jesús Alfonzo Guevara Aguilar*Entusiasta de la Computación e
> >>>>>>>> Internet,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> de
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> la Industria Automotriz, Maquinaria Pesada/Electricidad y
> >>>>>>> Electrónica,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> la
> >>>>>>>> Tecnología y el Software Libre. Lector de feeds Rss, Usuario de
> >>>>>>>> Ubuntu
> >>>>>>>> GNU/Linux.
> >>>>>>>> @jesusguevarauto <https://twitter.com/jesusguevarauto>
> >>>>>>>> @GUSLSanFelix <https://twitter.com/GUSLSanFelix>
> >>>>>>>> GUSL San Felix - Grupo de Usuarios de Sofware Libre de Ciudad
> >>>>>>>> Guayana
> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/forum/gusl-sanfelix>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ciudad Guayana, Estado Bolívar, Venezuela
> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Ricardo C. Fernández de C.
> >>>>> Caracas - Venezuela
> >>>>> http://www.fercusoft.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>> Ricardo C. Fernández de C.
> >>> Caracas - Venezuela
> >>> http://www.fercusoft.com/
> >>>
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>
>
> --
> Angel Cipriano Márquez César
> -------
> "Iremos juntos a cualquier parte, siempre que sea hacia adelante"
> Ernesto Sábato
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