Hi All, I share your frustrations. I installed KDE4 on my Ubuntu 8.04 machine right after 8.04 was released. KDE didn't work and it even managed to break Gnome. I ended up reinstalling Ubuntu from scratch. Heavy disappointment as I was quite looking forward to KDE4's new features. Cheers, Charl -- Charl van Niekerk http://charlvn.za.net