[ubuntu-za] Skype, Ubuntu, Weekend

[David Robert Lewis]

Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) wrote:
> Hi David
>
> David Robert Lewis wrote:
>   
>> 2. Proxy setting. Funny bug this one - I have proxy service at Openweb,
>> which is great for browsing, and I can set the Network proxy but, what
>> happend to the verification box, surely not all proxy's are free?
>>
>> W: Failed to fetch
>> http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nss/libnss3-0d_3.12.2~rc1-0ubuntu2~fta1~hardy_amd64.deb
>>   407 Proxy Authentication Required
>>     
>
> Type "echo $http_proxy". What do you get? When you set it in "Network
> proxy" it should set that.
>   
Hmmn, the human interface bug # 1 David's Brain, it turns out there is 
actually a button labeled something silly like "more".
 I clicked this and found. surprise surprise, input for verification 
details. It appears to work in an obstruse way, but its the first of the 
month, and I'll know for certain when my cap rounds out.
>   
>> 3. Implementing bug control on this list: Since, Ubuntu is us, how do we
>> go about the fixing Network Proxy app, and keeping track of the
>> community modifications, for example, the Pulse Audio problem?
>>     
>
> The bug traffic would be way too much for a generic list like this.
> Everyone is of course welcome to subscribe to the individual lists at
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/#Bug+Lists
>   
This is the kind of info which needs to be up on the wiki


>> 4. Wiki (as above) I don't see much up at the Wiki. Would be nice to
>> have a local Bugs list, things that Bug us in ZA, as opposed to the rest
>> of the World. Then we could actually implement the ZA-Buntu proposal in
>> a meaningful way.
>>     
>
> Yes, the wiki needs a *lot* of work.
>   
We need to find a way to encourage members to make use of the wiki. A 
lot of good information and advice is simply going to waste if nothing 
is done to document the discussion for those legacy users who have yet 
to find Ubuntu.
I often find good advice two-three years old on the net, and it's all 
completely new to me. Also, the thing about Ubuntu is that you can 
install it on an old machine and thus save hardware from the scrapheap. 
In SA this is essential, since majority of us are living in poverty.
>   
>> 5. Underlying Metaphor of Ubuntu: to reiterate on a theme on which I
>> emailed morgan, the quibbles I have with Ubuntu from a design point of
>> view is that it's way too terminal-focused (a problem with most Linux
>> distro's) the trick is to see if we can map the SUI (Semantic User
>> Interface) to the GUI (Graphical User Interface), in a meaningful way so
>> that children (and women) will be able to relate. 
>>     
>
> I know of lots of work that has gone into improving usability for kids,
> but is there really any research done that shows that woman require a
> different interface? I think it would be interesting if you could link
> to such data.
>
> -Jonathan
>   

Maybe its a left brain, right brain thing. I guess this kind of 
statement could be misconstrued as misogynism, but you get what I'm 
trying to say - we not all in the semantic frame of mind, often we need 
visual stimulus, some means of relating on a morphic level. From my 
experience, women tend to operate like this at least one week out of 
every month, but I'll be damned if I can find evidence linking Ubuntu to 
human behaviour. Perhaps more research needs to be done.
Check this out 
<http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/04/060404090204.htm>Even At 
Rest, Men's And Women's Brains Behave Differently 
<http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/04/060404090204.htm>
and  Men's and women's brains behave differently 
<http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/8011>