[ubuntu-za] Laptop without OS option

Mon Apr 18 10:19:09 UTC 2011

Hi all,

I'm currently shopping around for a laptop to use as an Ubuntu based
development machine.
I just thought I'd ask if anyone knows if there are local suppliers of
laptops in SA that have an option of buying the laptop sans OS?
I don't want to pay for Windows if I don't have to ;)

Cheers!
Shafi

On 18 April 2011 10:56, <ubuntu-za-request at lists.ubuntu.com> wrote:

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> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 00:52:10 +0200
> From: Nic Roets <nroets at gmail.com>
> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Basic screensaver
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> Hello Charl,
>
> You can choose the GLslideshow component using xscreensaver-demo. Make
> a directory with jpgs and set it under Advanced.
>
> Regards,
> Nic
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> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Charl Wentzel
> <charl.wentzel at vodamail.co.za> wrote:
> > Hi guys
> >
> > I'm busy with an interesting project...
> >
> > I created a basic user terminal which only requires a web browser.
> ?Started
> > with Ubuntu 10.04 Server edition and added:
> > - openbox
> > - slim (login manager)
> > - feh (image viewer to draw background)
> > - lxpanel
> > - chromium-browser
> > - rox-filer (file manager)
> > - xscreensaver
> >
> > I'm now working on the screensaver. ?I'm looking for a simple screensaver
> > that can show a logo image only, bouncing or jumping around. (Like one of
> > the standard Windows screensavers.) However, I can't find a screensaver
> like
> > that in the screensaver list.
> >
> > Anyone knows where I can find one?
> >
> > Regards
> > Charl
> >
> > Sent from my HTC
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> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:59:56 -0400
> From: Lee Sharp <leesharp at hal-pc.org>
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> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] 11.04 Beta 2
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> On 04/17/2011 02:09 PM, Raoul Snyman wrote:
> > On Sunday 17 April 2011 19:55:04 Hilton Gibson wrote:
> >> If so, then why is this possible with Gnome and not KDE4
> >> http://www.ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/W7_Theme
> >
> > Why would you want to make your Linux computer look like Windows? Oh
> wait, I
> > forgot, Gnome is pretty plain. Don't need to do that in KDE, cause it
> already
> > looks awesome :-P
>
> Paraphrase - "We can't do that so it is wrong." copyright Apple Computer
>
> :)
>
>                        Lee
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> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:43:45 +0200
> From: Raoul Snyman <raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za>
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> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:59:56 -0400, Lee Sharp <leesharp at hal-pc.org> wrote:
> > Paraphrase - "We can't do that so it is wrong." copyright Apple Computer
>
> Who's "we", paleface?
>
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> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:50:54 +0200
> From: Raoul Snyman <raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za>
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> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:59:56 -0400, Lee Sharp <leesharp at hal-pc.org> wrote:
> > Paraphrase - "We can't do that so it is wrong." copyright Apple Computer
>
> Besides, I never said KDE 4 *can't* do that, I just said I don't see the
> point why anyone would want to make their Linux computer look like Windows.
>
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> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:28:40 +0200
> From: <wikus at cheetah-microsystems.com>
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> Subject: [ubuntu-za] Kubuntu questions
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> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:41:48 +0200
> From: Raoul Snyman <raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za>
> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Kubuntu questions
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> Hi Wikus,
>
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:28:40 +0200, <wikus at cheetah-microsystems.com>
> wrote:
> > I am thinking of trying Kubuntu. I have only used normal Ubuntu before
> and
> > build up a huge base of manualsand documents on how to do things. My
> > question is , how much of that is the same in Kubuntu and how muchwill I
> > have to start from scratch learning again.
>
> Most of the concepts are the same, even if you're using a different app.
> For instance, a text editor is a text editor, whether you're using gedit or
> Kate.
>
> > 1. Installing software (apt-get and synaptec the same in Kubuntu)
>
> Kubuntu has apt-get, but uses KPackageKit instead of Synaptic.
>
> > 2. Installing multimedia support
>
> In Ubuntu you install "ubuntu-restricted-extras". In Kubuntu you install
> "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
>
> > 3. Installing encoders such as ffmpeg4.
> > Installing LAMP
>
> You'll install the same packages in Kubuntu as you would in Ubuntu.
>
> > So basically what I want to know is everything under the hood the same
> and
> > is it only the desktop environment that differs ?
>
> Yes.
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:22:03 +0200
> From: Dani?l Louw <daniel at dline.co.za>
> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Kubuntu questions
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> Yup, Under the hood very much the same.
>
> I used KDE for a while, and I mostly used Ubuntu tutorials online, as they
> are more available.
>
> One handy thing to know is that in general, KDE libraries/packages start
> with a k (kate), and Gnome's start with a G (gedit). This is not always
> true, but a good indicator. When you're in Gnome, and you want to install a
> KDE package, you can expect to install quite a few kDependencies, and the
> same is true for vice versa. Software wise I am yet to find something that
> is not cross-compatible with the two.
>
> --
> Regards
>
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> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:24:07 +0200
> From: David Rubin <drubin at ubuntu.com>
> To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Kubuntu questions
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> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Raoul Snyman <
> raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za> wrote:
>
> > Hi Wikus,
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:28:40 +0200, <wikus at cheetah-microsystems.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I am thinking of trying Kubuntu. I have only used normal Ubuntu before
> > and
> > > build up a huge base of manualsand documents on how to do things. My
> > > question is , how much of that is the same in Kubuntu and how muchwill
> I
> > > have to start from scratch learning again.
> >
> > Most of the concepts are the same, even if you're using a different app.
> > For instance, a text editor is a text editor, whether you're using gedit
> or
> > Kate.
> >
> > > 1. Installing software (apt-get and synaptec the same in Kubuntu)
> >
>
> Generally as a rule command line applications will all be the same. it is
> the GUI apps that change.
>
> David
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> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 10:56:39 +0200
> From: Peter Nel <fourdots at gmail.com>
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> Just my thought on this idea.. wouldn't this cause a split in this
> list-community?
>
> I for one would be interested in reading about hacking all sorts of weird
> devices, including motors, and wotnot; some running ubuntu, some other
> distros, or some maybe firmware based chip programming, or whatever.
> Some of the stuff that would actually be relevant in this list will go
> there, and we'll miss out.
>
> Is this other content really so off-topic that we need a separate forum? Is
> there really enough of such content to justify it? I've seen the
> window-wiper-motor post that started this thread, and that's basically it..
>
> If it does happen, it should perhaps be integrated into
> the mailing-list system where one can post by replying (negating the need
> for a separate forum); or else, it should go somewhere else entirely -
> perhaps gumtree ;-)
>
>
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