[ubuntu-za] Stop the Anti-Unity / Gnome 3 FUD! [off topic]

[Lee Sharp]

On 12/29/2011 12:57 PM, Peter Nel wrote:
> Yee-haww - we be havin' us an old style turkey shoot! :-)

OK. Who is the turkey? ;)  [And I take offense at almost nothing.  It is 
too much effort, for no reward.]

> Was your omgubuntu comment NOT aimed at me? If so, I retract my foul.

I was sure there were two people talking about omgubuntu, but I could 
not remember.  So I used the non-specific "someone."

> Furthermore, (...and I left this out before...) I fail to see how
> bufferbloat was relevant to any of this. I've in fact read that entire
> article when it came out a month ago - yes, it's about bufferbloat...
> Perhaps an example of what a "technical" article should be like? Yes,
> ok, technical blogs about technical things would be more... technical.
> Blogs about subjective user opinions and polls, would be less so...
> and the color of white is... white. (<-- foul! Peter having derogatory
> tone. Bad form!! Peter: no, trying to illustrate the nature of
> self-evident truths with simplified example)

It was a fantastic example of a lot of what I was talking about.  It was 
one of the most complex workflows I have had in a long time.  It was a 
real neat problem!  But also, people working on the buffer bloat problem 
at not your typical omgubuntu readers, even if they do occasionally read 
it.  Also, many of them know linux very well, and lots of them.  So, if 
Ubuntu goes sidewase, thay can more easily switch distributions than 
that can argue the point.

> So I "bemoaned the lack of technical problems"? [sarcasm:] What a
> perfectly neutral way of putting it!?
> If you read me correctly, I was simply -stating- in reference (and in
> defense of my attempted humorous comment about "real geeks" and "real
> problems") to previous mails, that there were indeed no real technical
> problems being experienced (then presently discussed) - unless you
> consider "forgetting where a setting is", or "having to install CCSM
> to configure something" serious technical problems... IDK, perhaps
> I've just been using linux longer than you, but I've broken my egg on
> some seriously hard rocks in this thing.

Considering how many "linux"s there are, and how many of them are NOT 
consistent in where they put things, "forgetting what or where something 
is" is actually quite common.  We could do a challenge like that picture 
where you see how many horses you can find...  How many different places 
can you find a web server config file? ;)

> Are you maybe still sour at me for rebuking you at the beginning of
> this thread? If so... I'M SORRY, I stand down.

Actually, I have been following along, and really liking many of the 
suggestions given.  None of them solve my biggest problems, but a few of 
the little ones were knocked down.

			Lee