[ubuntu-za] A new laptop for Ubuntu without windows

[Pieter Geyer]

Hi Hilton

I did a post about 2 to 3 years ago regarding dell and ubuntu working
together.

The link at that time was www.dell.com/ubuntu


It currently redirects you the the following specked laptop.


3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3517U (4M Cache, up to 3.0 GHz)
UBUNTU Linux 12.04
13.3" HD 720p
8GB2<http://www.dell.com/mc.ashx?id=technotes:graphics-and-system-memory&c=us&l=en&s=soho&modalwidth=400&modalHeight=150&ovropac=0&modalscroll=yes&modaltarget=div&modaltype=tooltip&position=bottom&title=Important
Details&flip=false&eventType=rollover> DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz
256GB Solid State Drive
Intel HD 4000
1 Year ProSupport with 1 Year NBD Limited Onsite Service After Remote
Diagnosis
2.99 lbs

I also recall that rectron sold at some stage entry level laptop's with a
freeware DOS version (the old style MS-DOS) with just a command promt.

That allowed companies that had volume license of windows, to load it on
the laptops.


Kind Regards
Pieter Geyer
SAP Basis Consultant




On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Hilton Gibson <hilton.gibson at gmail.com>wrote:

> "This is a good point, but I think the rule should be that
> manufacturers provide the option of selling hardware without an
> operating system installed.  They only cover support and warranty for
> hardware, anything beyond that is up to the customer."
>
> This seems to be achievable.
>
>
>
>
> On 28 January 2013 09:26, Casper Labuschagne <casper.labuschagne at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> <CAAV1Wv7yRzQ8TrntGQuNOT=cKgKsS5Ktqg_C-C2g8EaNiX5HAg at mail.gmail.com>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 12:03:00PM +0200, Hilton Gibson wrote:
>> >    This idea of activism is great but lets look at it from the retailers
>> >    point of view. How do they provide after sale service for Ubuntu?
>> How many
>> >    of them know Ubuntu? Are we as a community willing to provide after
>> sale
>> >    service and if so, what are the legal implications?
>>
>> In the past I have had to send in a Dell laptop which was under
>> warranty and on which I had removed Windows entirely, replacing it
>> with Xubuntu.
>>
>> It was a hardware fault and having booted up the technician could
>> then proceed to a Linux login screen.  From that point forward all
>> the problems were my responsibility, up to the appearance of that
>> screen meant that whatever was faulty was in the domain of the
>> manufacturer.  Even the fact that the hardware concerned would boot
>> in Linux from a live CD and works reliably is all the Linux user
>> requires.
>>
>> This is a good point, but I think the rule should be that
>> manufacturers provide the option of selling hardware without an
>> operating system installed.  They only cover support and warranty for
>> hardware, anything beyond that is up to the customer.
>>
>> There is a business opportunity here - if a Linux vendor could
>> negotiate OEM deals with manufacturers they could in theory pre-load
>> the Linux of choice on selected hardware and provide a comprehensive
>> support contract that covers the OS.
>>
>> These are the alternatives:
>>
>> 1) Pay the Windows tax to Microsoft.
>> 2) Search for a laptop with no OS installed.
>> 3) The activism route: Protest, use a legal route to claim a refund
>> for Windows or complain to the competition commission.
>> 4) Find a vendor selling hardware with Linux pre-installed.
>>
>> The last option is what we should really pursue.  At issue here is
>> really that there is AFIAK no retail vendor in South-Africa that offers
>> Linux as a pre-installed option.  Why there are no such vendors are
>> really what the ZA-Linux community should solve.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Casper
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