From ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw  Mon Sep  1 11:04:13 2008
From: ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw (Neil Coetzer)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:04:13 +0200
Subject: to dell laptops for africa
In-Reply-To: <48B64BB3.4090809@logical.co.zw>
References: <48B64BB3.4090809@logical.co.zw>
Message-ID: <1220263453.19818.26.camel@nit>

Excellent stuff. Would be great if they started doing it for higher spec
machines as well, but I suppose that depends on the success they have
with these ones.

On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 08:54 +0200, jonathan wrote:

> Dell today announced two new laptops and two desktops in its Vostro 
> range that will run Ubuntu Linux and are destined for emerging markets.
> 
> The two laptops, the A860 and A840, have had a facelift since earlier 
> Vostro laptops and are apparently aimed at meeting the needs of small 
> and medium-size enterprises, governments, and educational institutions 
> in Asia, Africa, Latin America and Europe.
> 
> Destined, as they are, for ?emerging markets? the A860 and A840 are 
> low-spec machines - 1GB memory, Celeron processors - but with a lower 
> price tag.
> 
> Both the desktops and the laptops will have a choice of Ubuntu Linux or 
> Windows (Vista for laptops and XP for desktops).
> 
> The A100 Vostro desktop, interestingly, is built on Intel?s new Atom 
> processor. The other desktop, the A180, will be available in a range of 
> specifications and a choice of Windows or Linux.
> 
> 
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From ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw  Mon Sep  1 12:39:03 2008
From: ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw (Neil Coetzer)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:39:03 +0200
Subject: Meeting
Message-ID: <1220269143.19818.52.camel@nit>

Hi all,

Please be advised of the September Ubuntu meeting, to take place this
coming Wednesday (03/09/2008) at Round Table JV, 6pm for 6.30pm. Please
let me know asap if you will be attending or not.

Sorry for the late notice - I've been offline since last week because of
"rodent damage" to our fibre link. Attendance was disappointing for the
last meeting (with only four of us there) so please make an effort.

Regards,
Neil
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From simpsonmoyo at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 17:08:32 2008
From: simpsonmoyo at gmail.com (Simpson Moyo)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:08:32 +0200
Subject: Meeting
In-Reply-To: <1220269143.19818.52.camel@nit>
References: <1220269143.19818.52.camel@nit>
Message-ID: <63e15ce20809010908h46611729lbfa1a23d1c4c7ea7@mail.gmail.com>

will be there...

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Neil Coetzer <ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw>wrote:

>  Hi all,
>
> Please be advised of the September Ubuntu meeting, to take place this
> coming Wednesday (03/09/2008) at Round Table JV, 6pm for 6.30pm. Please let
> me know asap if you will be attending or not.
>
> Sorry for the late notice - I've been offline since last week because of
> "rodent damage" to our fibre link. Attendance was disappointing for the last
> meeting (with only four of us there) so please make an effort.
>
> Regards,
> Neil
>
> --
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From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 05:23:22 2008
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:23:22 +0200
Subject: Meeting
In-Reply-To: <63e15ce20809010908h46611729lbfa1a23d1c4c7ea7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1220269143.19818.52.camel@nit>
	<63e15ce20809010908h46611729lbfa1a23d1c4c7ea7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48BCBFBA.60900@gmail.com>

I got transport headaches big time so sadly you have to count me out 
this time too.


Simpson Moyo wrote:
> will be there...
> 
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Neil Coetzer <ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw 
> <mailto:ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi all,
> 
>     Please be advised of the September Ubuntu meeting, to take place
>     this coming Wednesday (03/09/2008) at Round Table JV, 6pm for
>     6.30pm. Please let me know asap if you will be attending or not.
> 
>     Sorry for the late notice - I've been offline since last week
>     because of "rodent damage" to our fibre link. Attendance was
>     disappointing for the last meeting (with only four of us there) so
>     please make an effort.
> 
>     Regards,
>     Neil
> 
>     --
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From ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw  Tue Sep  2 12:38:50 2008
From: ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw (Neil Coetzer)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:38:50 +0200
Subject: Meeting Agenda
Message-ID: <1220355530.7067.28.camel@nit>

Hi all,

Please find attached the agenda for the meeting, kindly prepared by
Ronald.

Cheers,
Neil
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From ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw  Tue Sep  2 12:42:09 2008
From: ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw (Neil Coetzer)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:42:09 +0200
Subject: PGP Keys - Signing the Code of Conduct
Message-ID: <1220355729.7067.34.camel@nit>

Hi all,

For those planning to sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct online, please see
the attached notes. You will need to be registered on launchpad.net
before doing this.

Cheers,
Neil
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From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 13:21:36 2008
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:21:36 +0200
Subject: PGP Keys - Signing the Code of Conduct
In-Reply-To: <1220355729.7067.34.camel@nit>
References: <1220355729.7067.34.camel@nit>
Message-ID: <48BD2FD0.5080005@gmail.com>

Neil Coetzer wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> For those planning to sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct online, please see 
> the attached notes. You will need to be registered on launchpad.net 
> before doing this.
> 
> Cheers,
> Neil
> 
was a bit "sweaty" but finally managed. To do this in Thunderbird I 
think you need an add-on but I dont remember which ( I used KMail 
myself, there it is integrated given you have registered a key and 
imported to the mailclient)

Sinclair


From brucegrobler at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 13:37:45 2008
From: brucegrobler at gmail.com (Bruce Grobler)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:37:45 +0200
Subject: Ubuntu-zw Digest, Vol 16, Issue 2
In-Reply-To: <mailman.137.1220353231.2055.ubuntu-zw@lists.ubuntu.com>
References: <mailman.137.1220353231.2055.ubuntu-zw@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <127a67250809020537j751d4e87o996e9bc302f85e22@mail.gmail.com>

I will be making an appearance.

On 9/2/08, ubuntu-zw-request at lists.ubuntu.com
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> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:39:03 +0200
> From: Neil Coetzer <ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw>
> Subject: Meeting
> To: ubuntu-zw <ubuntu-zw at lists.ubuntu.com>
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>
> Hi all,
>
> Please be advised of the September Ubuntu meeting, to take place this
> coming Wednesday (03/09/2008) at Round Table JV, 6pm for 6.30pm. Please
> let me know asap if you will be attending or not.
>
> Sorry for the late notice - I've been offline since last week because of
> "rodent damage" to our fibre link. Attendance was disappointing for the
> last meeting (with only four of us there) so please make an effort.
>
> Regards,
> Neil
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> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:08:32 +0200
> From: "Simpson Moyo" <simpsonmoyo at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Meeting
> To: "Neil Coetzer" <ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw>
> Cc: ubuntu-zw <ubuntu-zw at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> will be there...
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Neil Coetzer <ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw>wrote:
>
>>  Hi all,
>>
>> Please be advised of the September Ubuntu meeting, to take place this
>> coming Wednesday (03/09/2008) at Round Table JV, 6pm for 6.30pm. Please
>> let
>> me know asap if you will be attending or not.
>>
>> Sorry for the late notice - I've been offline since last week because of
>> "rodent damage" to our fibre link. Attendance was disappointing for the
>> last
>> meeting (with only four of us there) so please make an effort.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Neil
>>
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> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:23:22 +0200
> From: "O. Sinclair" <o.sinclair at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Meeting
> Cc: ubuntu-zw <ubuntu-zw at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> I got transport headaches big time so sadly you have to count me out
> this time too.
>
>
> Simpson Moyo wrote:
>> will be there...
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Neil Coetzer <ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw
>> <mailto:ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi all,
>>
>>     Please be advised of the September Ubuntu meeting, to take place
>>     this coming Wednesday (03/09/2008) at Round Table JV, 6pm for
>>     6.30pm. Please let me know asap if you will be attending or not.
>>
>>     Sorry for the late notice - I've been offline since last week
>>     because of "rodent damage" to our fibre link. Attendance was
>>     disappointing for the last meeting (with only four of us there) so
>>     please make an effort.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Neil
>>
>>     --
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From ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw  Tue Sep  2 13:55:16 2008
From: ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw (Neil Coetzer)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:55:16 +0200
Subject: PGP Keys - Signing the Code of Conduct
In-Reply-To: <48BD2FD0.5080005@gmail.com>
References: <1220355729.7067.34.camel@nit>  <48BD2FD0.5080005@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1220360116.7067.45.camel@nit>

On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 14:21 +0200, O. Sinclair wrote:
> Neil Coetzer wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > For those planning to sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct online, please see 
> > the attached notes. You will need to be registered on launchpad.net 
> > before doing this.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Neil
> > 
> was a bit "sweaty" but finally managed. To do this in Thunderbird I 
> think you need an add-on but I dont remember which ( I used KMail 
> myself, there it is integrated given you have registered a key and 
> imported to the mailclient)
> 
> Sinclair

Thanks for the feedback. I haven't used PGP in Thunderbird myself. It is
all fully integrated into Evolution, without needing to import keys or
anything, but I know a lot of people don't like Evolution because it
still has quite a few "issues".



From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 14:18:10 2008
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:18:10 +0200
Subject: PGP Keys - Signing the Code of Conduct
In-Reply-To: <1220360116.7067.45.camel@nit>
References: <1220355729.7067.34.camel@nit> <48BD2FD0.5080005@gmail.com>
	<1220360116.7067.45.camel@nit>
Message-ID: <48BD3D12.6090205@gmail.com>

Neil Coetzer wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 14:21 +0200, O. Sinclair wrote:
>> Neil Coetzer wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> For those planning to sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct online, please see 
>>> the attached notes. You will need to be registered on launchpad.net 
>>> before doing this.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Neil
>>>
>> was a bit "sweaty" but finally managed. To do this in Thunderbird I 
>> think you need an add-on but I dont remember which ( I used KMail 
>> myself, there it is integrated given you have registered a key and 
>> imported to the mailclient)
>>
>> Sinclair
> 
> Thanks for the feedback. I haven't used PGP in Thunderbird myself. It is
> all fully integrated into Evolution, without needing to import keys or
> anything, but I know a lot of people don't like Evolution because it
> still has quite a few "issues".
> 
> 

could be easier than I think but here is a link to an article on the 
subject:
http://www.linux-magazine.com/issues/2007/74/signed_and_sealed/(kategorie)/0



From jonathan at logical.co.zw  Tue Sep  2 14:36:34 2008
From: jonathan at logical.co.zw (jonathan)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:36:34 +0200
Subject: More hardware vendor's selling Linux computers.link included
Message-ID: <48BD4162.9090208@logical.co.zw>

MSI has today announced three new versions of its popular Wind U100 
netbook, including a Linux version and a pink edition.

While the U100 only offered Windows XP, the operating system on the new 
U90 is Suse Linux. What?s more, the cost of this version is some ?50 
cheaper than the original U100, with a suggested retail price of only 
?269, but the size of the display has been reduced from 10in down to 8.9in.

MSI is also looking to attract an alternative demographic by offering a 
bold pink version of the Wind instead of the regular black and white 
options.

The pink edition will also be ?10 cheaper than the new standard version, 
which will now ship with a 120GB hard disk, as opposed to the 80GB drive 
in the original version and the new Linux and pink editions.

Other than these changes the spec of each machine is the same, with a 
1.6GHz Atom processor, 1GB of memory, 802.11b/g Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 2.0, a 
1.3-megapixel webcam, three USB ports, an Ethernet connecter, VGA out 
and an SDHC card slot.
http://www.itpro.co.uk/605820/msi-brings-linux-to-wind-lowers-price-ups-storage



From moyot at solusi.ac.zw  Wed Sep  3 14:30:36 2008
From: moyot at solusi.ac.zw (Thembinkosi)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 15:30:36 +0200
Subject: ZIXP
In-Reply-To: <48BD3D12.6090205@gmail.com>
References: <1220355729.7067.34.camel@nit>
	<48BD2FD0.5080005@gmail.com>	<1220360116.7067.45.camel@nit>
	<48BD3D12.6090205@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAANCMUagZRGxJhI4JROpg4sYBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>

Do we have a Zimbabwe Internet Exchange Point (ZINX)? Who runs it? I am just
curious....




From simbiso at gmail.com  Wed Sep  3 15:57:28 2008
From: simbiso at gmail.com (ronald munjoma)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:57:28 +0200
Subject: ZIXP
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAANCMUagZRGxJhI4JROpg4sYBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
References: <1220355729.7067.34.camel@nit> <48BD2FD0.5080005@gmail.com>
	<1220360116.7067.45.camel@nit> <48BD3D12.6090205@gmail.com>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAANCMUagZRGxJhI4JROpg4sYBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
Message-ID: <b614bab0809030757w571a447aub349db188346bdf3@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Thembi,

Yes, we do have one called ZINX, it is run by ZISPA www.zispa.org.zw

ZISPA is responsible for registering the .co.zw tld, whilst the University
of Zimbabwe is responsible for registering the .ac.zw tld and Telone is
responsible for .org.zw tld

Hope this is useful,

Regards

Ronald

On 03/09/2008, Thembinkosi <moyot at solusi.ac.zw> wrote:
>
> Do we have a Zimbabwe Internet Exchange Point (ZINX)? Who runs it? I am
> just
> curious....
>
>
>
>
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From tawandac at gmail.com  Wed Sep  3 17:39:50 2008
From: tawandac at gmail.com (TCB)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:39:50 +0200
Subject: ZIXP
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAANCMUagZRGxJhI4JROpg4sYBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
References: <1220355729.7067.34.camel@nit> <48BD2FD0.5080005@gmail.com>
	<1220360116.7067.45.camel@nit> <48BD3D12.6090205@gmail.com>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAANCMUagZRGxJhI4JROpg4sYBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
Message-ID: <f9db9e000809030939nc50fe1du5022ba646c80ec4@mail.gmail.com>

I believe ZISPA oversee the running of ZINX @ eastgate via a tech team. Most
of the major ISPs
are connected to ZINXs at fairly high speed links, i believe ZOL,Telco,AFOL,
Ecoweb,Utande,Taurai
should on Ethernet ~ 100Mbps.

regards

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Thembinkosi <moyot at solusi.ac.zw> wrote:

> Do we have a Zimbabwe Internet Exchange Point (ZINX)? Who runs it? I am
> just
> curious....
>
>
>
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From moyot at solusi.ac.zw  Thu Sep  4 07:45:56 2008
From: moyot at solusi.ac.zw (Thembinkosi)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 08:45:56 +0200
Subject: New Google Browser - Chrome
In-Reply-To: <f9db9e000809030939nc50fe1du5022ba646c80ec4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1220355729.7067.34.camel@nit>
	<48BD2FD0.5080005@gmail.com>	<1220360116.7067.45.camel@nit>
	<48BD3D12.6090205@gmail.com>	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAANCMUagZRGxJhI4JROpg4sYBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
	<f9db9e000809030939nc50fe1du5022ba646c80ec4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAAAXAt64AnXxPgVn0c82vftoBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>

I have been using the new Google web browser for an hour and so far it seems
to be doing a good job, it seems faster.

It also "multi-tasks" very well. In windows task manager you will notice it
run several instances of chrome.exe It has a lot of potential I will keep an
eye on it...

 

 

From: ubuntu-zw-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
[mailto:ubuntu-zw-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of TCB
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:40 PM
To: Thembinkosi
Cc: ubuntu-zw; O. Sinclair
Subject: Re: ZIXP

 


I believe ZISPA oversee the running of ZINX @ eastgate via a tech team. Most
of the major ISPs
are connected to ZINXs at fairly high speed links, i believe ZOL,Telco,AFOL,
Ecoweb,Utande,Taurai 
should on Ethernet ~ 100Mbps.

regards

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Thembinkosi <moyot at solusi.ac.zw> wrote:

Do we have a Zimbabwe Internet Exchange Point (ZINX)? Who runs it? I am just
curious....



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From ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw  Thu Sep  4 07:51:40 2008
From: ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw (Neil Coetzer)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:51:40 +0200
Subject: New Google Browser - Chrome
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAAAXAt64AnXxPgVn0c82vftoBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
References: <1220355729.7067.34.camel@nit> <48BD2FD0.5080005@gmail.com>
	<1220360116.7067.45.camel@nit> <48BD3D12.6090205@gmail.com>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAANCMUagZRGxJhI4JROpg4sYBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
	<f9db9e000809030939nc50fe1du5022ba646c80ec4@mail.gmail.com>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAAAXAt64AnXxPgVn0c82vftoBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
Message-ID: <1220511100.6947.0.camel@nit>

Please let us know if anyone hears when a Linux version is out.

On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 08:45 +0200, Thembinkosi wrote:
> I have been using the new Google web browser for an hour and so far it
> seems to be doing a good job, it seems faster.
> 
> It also "multi-tasks" very well. In windows task manager you will
> notice it run several instances of chrome.exe It has a lot of
> potential I will keep an eye on it...
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> From: ubuntu-zw-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
> [mailto:ubuntu-zw-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of TCB
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:40 PM
> To: Thembinkosi
> Cc: ubuntu-zw; O. Sinclair
> Subject: Re: ZIXP
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> I believe ZISPA oversee the running of ZINX @ eastgate via a tech
> team. Most of the major ISPs
> are connected to ZINXs at fairly high speed links, i believe
> ZOL,Telco,AFOL, Ecoweb,Utande,Taurai 
> should on Ethernet ~ 100Mbps.
> 
> regards
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Thembinkosi <moyot at solusi.ac.zw>
> wrote:
> 
> Do we have a Zimbabwe Internet Exchange Point (ZINX)? Who runs it? I
> am just
> curious....
> 
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From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 07:59:54 2008
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:59:54 +0200
Subject: New Google Browser - Chrome
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAAAXAt64AnXxPgVn0c82vftoBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
References: <1220355729.7067.34.camel@nit>	<48BD2FD0.5080005@gmail.com>	<1220360116.7067.45.camel@nit>	<48BD3D12.6090205@gmail.com>	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAANCMUagZRGxJhI4JROpg4sYBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>	<f9db9e000809030939nc50fe1du5022ba646c80ec4@mail.gmail.com>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAAAXAt64AnXxPgVn0c82vftoBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
Message-ID: <48BF876A.60602@gmail.com>

There are already privacy concerns regarding this browser, see link below:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10031661-56.html?tag=txt

Sinclair

Thembinkosi wrote:
> I have been using the new Google web browser for an hour and so far it 
> seems to be doing a good job, it seems faster.
> 
> It also "multi-tasks" very well. In windows task manager you will notice 
> it run several instances of chrome.exe It has a lot of potential I will 
> keep an eye on it...
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> *From:* ubuntu-zw-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com 
> [mailto:ubuntu-zw-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] *On Behalf Of *TCB
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:40 PM
> *To:* Thembinkosi
> *Cc:* ubuntu-zw; O. Sinclair
> *Subject:* Re: ZIXP
> 
>  
> 
> 
> I believe ZISPA oversee the running of ZINX @ eastgate via a tech team. 
> Most of the major ISPs
> are connected to ZINXs at fairly high speed links, i believe 
> ZOL,Telco,AFOL, Ecoweb,Utande,Taurai
> should on Ethernet ~ 100Mbps.
> 
> regards
> 
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Thembinkosi <moyot at solusi.ac.zw 
> <mailto:moyot at solusi.ac.zw>> wrote:
> 
> Do we have a Zimbabwe Internet Exchange Point (ZINX)? Who runs it? I am just
> curious....
> 
> 
> 
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From moyot at solusi.ac.zw  Thu Sep  4 09:09:36 2008
From: moyot at solusi.ac.zw (Thembinkosi)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:09:36 +0200
Subject: Network Scanner 
In-Reply-To: <48BF876A.60602@gmail.com>
References: <1220355729.7067.34.camel@nit>	<48BD2FD0.5080005@gmail.com>	<1220360116.7067.45.camel@nit>	<48BD3D12.6090205@gmail.com>	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAANCMUagZRGxJhI4JROpg4sYBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>	<f9db9e000809030939nc50fe1du5022ba646c80ec4@mail.gmail.com>	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAAAXAt64AnXxPgVn0c82vftoBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
	<48BF876A.60602@gmail.com>
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I am looking for software that was once on YoAfrica that can scan a network
and automatically draw the diagram, any help?




From ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw  Thu Sep  4 10:39:04 2008
From: ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw (Neil Coetzer)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:39:04 +0200
Subject: Network Scanner
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAAFYuYTdw2lVGnD542UCjiz4BAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
References: <1220355729.7067.34.camel@nit>	<48BD2FD0.5080005@gmail.com>
	<1220360116.7067.45.camel@nit>	<48BD3D12.6090205@gmail.com>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAANCMUagZRGxJhI4JROpg4sYBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
	<f9db9e000809030939nc50fe1du5022ba646c80ec4@mail.gmail.com>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAAAXAt64AnXxPgVn0c82vftoBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
	<48BF876A.60602@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1220521144.6947.21.camel@nit>

I would also be very interested in that, if you find any answers!

On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 10:09 +0200, Thembinkosi wrote:
> I am looking for software that was once on YoAfrica that can scan a network
> and automatically draw the diagram, any help?
> 
> 
> 
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From jsteenbok at bulawayo.halsteds.co.zw  Thu Sep  4 10:49:41 2008
From: jsteenbok at bulawayo.halsteds.co.zw (Justin Steenbok)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:49:41 +0200
Subject: Network Scanner
In-Reply-To: <1220521144.6947.21.camel@nit>
References: <1220355729.7067.34.camel@nit>	<48BD2FD0.5080005@gmail.com>	<1220360116.7067.45.camel@nit>	<48BD3D12.6090205@gmail.com>	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAANCMUagZRGxJhI4JROpg4sYBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>	<f9db9e000809030939nc50fe1du5022ba646c80ec4@mail.gmail.com>	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAAAXAt64AnXxPgVn0c82vftoBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>	<48BF876A.60602@gmail.com>	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAAFYuYTdw2lVGnD542UCjiz4BAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
	<1220521144.6947.21.camel@nit>
Message-ID: <48BFAF35.9020809@bulawayo.halsteds.co.zw>

Hi Guys,

I played with solarwinds lansurveyor once upon a time. Not sure what 
developments have been made since i went off windoze!!


Neil Coetzer wrote:
> I would also be very interested in that, if you find any answers!
>
> On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 10:09 +0200, Thembinkosi wrote:
>   
>> I am looking for software that was once on YoAfrica that can scan a network
>> and automatically draw the diagram, any help?
>>
>>
>>
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From tawandac at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 11:05:53 2008
From: tawandac at gmail.com (TCB)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:05:53 +0200
Subject: Network Scanner
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAAFYuYTdw2lVGnD542UCjiz4BAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
References: <1220355729.7067.34.camel@nit> <48BD2FD0.5080005@gmail.com>
	<1220360116.7067.45.camel@nit> <48BD3D12.6090205@gmail.com>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAANCMUagZRGxJhI4JROpg4sYBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
	<f9db9e000809030939nc50fe1du5022ba646c80ec4@mail.gmail.com>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAAAXAt64AnXxPgVn0c82vftoBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
	<48BF876A.60602@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <f9db9e000809040305s6efcb9fx3c35b08733c6c807@mail.gmail.com>

I use etherape on ubuntu for fun, doesnt draw any diagrams but gives an
interesting picture of what you computer is up to. If its network monitoring
you
want jffnms and nagios have some very interesting auto-discovery options,
you
would have to do a lilttle work in getting the maps right.



On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Thembinkosi <moyot at solusi.ac.zw> wrote:

> I am looking for software that was once on YoAfrica that can scan a network
> and automatically draw the diagram, any help?
>
>
>
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From luminary06 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 13:06:11 2008
From: luminary06 at gmail.com (Kalpesh Thaker)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:06:11 +0200
Subject: Network Scanner
In-Reply-To: <f9db9e000809040305s6efcb9fx3c35b08733c6c807@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1220355729.7067.34.camel@nit> <48BD2FD0.5080005@gmail.com>
	<1220360116.7067.45.camel@nit> <48BD3D12.6090205@gmail.com>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAANCMUagZRGxJhI4JROpg4sYBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
	<f9db9e000809030939nc50fe1du5022ba646c80ec4@mail.gmail.com>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALR6mE5mubNBg7pi0zRsFK/CgAAAEAAAAAXAt64AnXxPgVn0c82vftoBAAAAAA==@solusi.ac.zw>
	<48BF876A.60602@gmail.com>
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	<f9db9e000809040305s6efcb9fx3c35b08733c6c807@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5b344b960809040506i485a1000l9aa840ed6dcf96d0@mail.gmail.com>

i believe the program you are referring to is called "DUDE"
www.mikrotik.com/dude/

for ms windows only

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:05 PM, TCB <tawandac at gmail.com> wrote:

> I use etherape on ubuntu for fun, doesnt draw any diagrams but gives an
> interesting picture of what you computer is up to. If its network
> monitoring you
> want jffnms and nagios have some very interesting auto-discovery options,
> you
> would have to do a lilttle work in getting the maps right.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Thembinkosi <moyot at solusi.ac.zw> wrote:
>
>> I am looking for software that was once on YoAfrica that can scan a
>> network
>> and automatically draw the diagram, any help?
>>
>>
>>
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From ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw  Thu Sep  4 14:05:45 2008
From: ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw (Neil Coetzer)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:05:45 +0200
Subject: Ubuntu Zimbabwe Policy Documents
Message-ID: <1220533545.6947.102.camel@nit>

Dear all,

Please see the attached policy documents. These relate to how the LoCo
Team operates, what is expected from members and what they can expect in
return. Note that these are purely "internal" documents which only apply
to the Zimbabwe Team, and don't necessarily reflect what is implemented
elsewhere in the world. These documents will be added to the wiki site
in due course, so that they can be referenced at any time.

On another note, if there are any LoCo Team members who are not
subscribed to the team at ubuntu.org.zw list, please notify myself or
Kalpesh so that you can be added. This list is only for official LoCo
Team members, as listed on the wiki site, and is primarily used for the
discussion of ongoing projects that the rest of the community is not
likely to be interested in at present.

Regards,
Neil


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From simbiso at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 15:07:12 2008
From: simbiso at gmail.com (ronald munjoma)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:07:12 +0200
Subject: Ubuntu Zimbabwe Policy Documents
In-Reply-To: <1220533545.6947.102.camel@nit>
References: <1220533545.6947.102.camel@nit>
Message-ID: <b614bab0809040707h433f461fgf1297bb1fb99ae05@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I will email the minutes from last nights meeting as soon as I am done.

2008/9/4 Neil Coetzer <ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw>

>  Dear all,
>
> Please see the attached policy documents. These relate to how the LoCo Team
> operates, what is expected from members and what they can expect in return.
> Note that these are purely "internal" documents which only apply to the
> Zimbabwe Team, and don't necessarily reflect what is implemented elsewhere
> in the world. These documents will be added to the wiki site in due course,
> so that they can be referenced at any time.
>
> On another note, if there are any LoCo Team members who are not subscribed
> to the team at ubuntu.org.zw list, please notify myself or Kalpesh so that
> you can be added. This list is only for official LoCo Team members, as
> listed on the wiki site, and is primarily used for the discussion of ongoing
> projects that the rest of the community is not likely to be interested in at
> present.
>
> Regards,
> Neil
>
>
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From simbiso at gmail.com  Fri Sep  5 14:38:37 2008
From: simbiso at gmail.com (ronald munjoma)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:38:37 +0200
Subject: Google Chrome under Wine
Message-ID: <b614bab0809050638g487e5dcag1e6cbb5b4fe03741@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I Googled Google Chrome running under Linux, I was impressed with the
results. Google Chrome has already been hacked to run on Ubuntu under wine.


The following links might be useful for those who want to give it a try:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5719331&postcount=45


http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/2008/09/install-google-chrome-on-linux-using-wine.html
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From jonathan at logical.co.zw  Tue Sep  9 07:31:57 2008
From: jonathan at logical.co.zw (jonathan)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 08:31:57 +0200
Subject: [Fwd: Introducing the Jaunty Jackalope]
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From jonathan at logical.co.zw  Mon Sep 22 08:11:37 2008
From: jonathan at logical.co.zw (jonathan)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:11:37 +0200
Subject: Microsoft To Invest Up To $100 Million In Novell Linux
Message-ID: <48D74529.4070606@logical.co.zw>

http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.php?id=205887


From ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw  Tue Sep 23 09:10:39 2008
From: ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw (Neil Coetzer)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:10:39 +0200
Subject: General Update - Ubuntu Zimbabwe
Message-ID: <1222157439.6605.45.camel@nit>

Dear all,

My apologies that the LoCo Team has been so quiet just lately. This does
not mean we've been idle! This is just a general update so that the
community has some idea of what we're up to.


-- Meetings --

As you would have seen from the minutes of our last meeting, attendance
was much better than the previous month, so a big thanks to the new
faces and we hope to see them again! Please be advised of the next
meeting, scheduled for Wednesday 1st October, at Round Table JV, 6.00pm
for 6.30pm.


-- Online presence and communications --

The Web site team are working hard on getting our local site ready. A
big thanks to all the guys contributing. 

A number of project and responsibility specific mailing lists have been
set up on the ubuntu.org.zw domain, to facilitate better communications
between Loco members (without bogging down this mailing list). All
community members are free to send mail to these lists though, which
include:

repo at ubuntu.org.zw - Delivers to those involved with the repository
mirror

webmaster at ubuntu.org.zw - Delivers to the Web site team

team at ubuntu.org.zw - Delivers to all LoCo Team members

Thanks once again to Kalpesh for setting these up and administering the
domain.


-- Ubuntu awareness --

Those of you who subscribe to the CSZ monthly newsletter will have
noticed our announcement of the launch of our repo in the last
newsletter. We will endeavour to make sure that we have a useful and
meaningful "article" in the CSZ newsletter every month.

In an effort to promote Ubuntu and create awareness, we are embarking on
a supplier affiliation project. This will involve computer suppliers
displaying an Ubuntu demo PC at their premises, and being able to
provide basic support to Ubuntu users, while also promoting awareness of
Ubuntu and open source to their customers. Talks have started with one
supplier who is very eager to get on board, but we are still in the
planning stages. You will be updated on progress.


-- Any ideas? --

In line with the documents sent out previously regarding the issuing of
certain certificates for recognition etc, we are currently looking for
any printers who might be able to sponsor the printing of these
certificates (as well as brochures and posters). If you have any ideas
or suggestions, please let us know.


?I hope you're all psyching up for Intrepid Ibex (Ubuntu 8.10),
scheduled for release on October 30th!

Regards,
Neil


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From simbiso at gmail.com  Thu Sep 25 09:16:10 2008
From: simbiso at gmail.com (ronald munjoma)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:16:10 +0200
Subject: Ubuntu loses its virginity, turns commercial
Message-ID: <b614bab0809250116v1c8754c2o244dde246945c883@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I am not subscribed to the newsletter (I will soon), will you please forward
me a copy.

Here is a generalised response, (I would have loved to read the other
article refered to).

Ubuntu Linux is Free as in Free Speech (the four Freedoms as stated by the
Free Software Foundation [reads Richard Stallman] and Free Beer (Gratis, for
no price). Mark and Canonical have clearly stated that Ubuntu will always
remain Free and so far they have upheld their promise.

Here is how I interpret the article;

You might be aware that the Ubuntu distribution tries by all means to use
Free Software (and avoid the inclusion of proprietary software as part of
the distribution). However one can install restricted software and other
third party software. The restricted and other third party software usually
comprise of proprietary drivers and multimedia codecs. There are work
arounds for most of the restricted software, for example my Aspire 5315
wireless card, makes use of proprietary drivers, I was able to enable and
use it by using Ndiswrapper (Ndiswrapper made it possible for me to download
and use Windows drivers on the Ubuntu box). I have also installed most of
the codecs by installing the Ubuntu Restricted Extras (from the Add/Remove
menu)

<quote>
To be clear, it is certainly possible to get proprietary multimedia codecs
and DVD playback capabilities running in Linux, free of charge. It's
actually fairly simple. And depending on the codec, or your country of
residence, it could also be illegal
</quote>

You might also want to know that Fluendo does also offer free (as in Free
Beer) codecs to play mp3 file formats.

Why the move?:

<quote>
Canonical aren't able to legally redistribute these codecs. So instead,
they've opted to open an area in the storefront that makes downloading and
installing purchased codecs work similarly to installing with Synaptic.
They've made it so that a complete reinstall of a system won't require
another codec purchase. They've made the best out of the situation.
</quote>

Neil: Like I indicated above I havent seen the CSZ newsletter and article,
but one thing for sure Canonical issued the statement here:

http://blog.canonical.com/?p=37

which have been quoted and analyzed here:

http://ostatic.com/173388-blog/canonical-opens-codec-sales-and-potential-can-of-worms#rss

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/20762/1090/1/1/


Personally I strongly feel that this move hurts the spirit of Ubuntu.


On 25/09/2008, Ganyani Khosa Webmail <khosag at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  I received my copy today of the abovementioned newsletter. Our article
> claims UBUNTU is free and another article in the same claims otherwise
> quoting http://www.itwire.com/content/view/20762/1090/  This does not
> reflect a good picture of what we are trying to achieve.
>
> We also need to pay close attention to the ICT Bill being proposed and
> ensure that it includes our interests. Lets not let it pass without our due
> attention. These are the policy issues I said I have keen interest. I will
> follow this and update team members.
>
>
> Ganyani
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From ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw  Thu Sep 25 09:45:36 2008
From: ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw (Neil Coetzer)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:45:36 +0200
Subject: Ubuntu loses its virginity, turns commercial
In-Reply-To: <b614bab0809250116v1c8754c2o244dde246945c883@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b614bab0809250116v1c8754c2o244dde246945c883@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1222332336.7046.75.camel@nit>

Hi Ronald,

Thanks for the info. Personally I don't really see the problem. The free
codecs are still available but users have the option of paying if they
want to make it legal. Ubuntu as we know and use it hasn't changed, as I
understand it, so I don't really think it damages the spirit of Ubuntu
at all.... they're just trying to do the right thing. The problem is not
with Canonical or Ubuntu... the problem is with the fact that such
widely used codecs are proprietary. That is what needs to change.

Cheers,
Neil

On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 10:16 +0200, ronald munjoma wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I am not subscribed to the newsletter (I will soon), will you please
> forward me a copy.
> 
> Here is a generalised response, (I would have loved to read the other
> article refered to).
> 
> Ubuntu Linux is Free as in Free Speech (the four Freedoms as stated by
> the Free Software Foundation [reads Richard Stallman] and Free Beer
> (Gratis, for no price). Mark and Canonical have clearly stated that
> Ubuntu will always remain Free and so far they have upheld their
> promise.
> 
> Here is how I interpret the article;
> 
> You might be aware that the Ubuntu distribution tries by all means to
> use Free Software (and avoid the inclusion of proprietary software as
> part of the distribution). However one can install restricted software
> and other third party software. The restricted and other third party
> software usually comprise of proprietary drivers and multimedia
> codecs. There are work arounds for most of the restricted software,
> for example my Aspire 5315 wireless card, makes use of proprietary
> drivers, I was able to enable and use it by using Ndiswrapper
> (Ndiswrapper made it possible for me to download and use Windows
> drivers on the Ubuntu box). I have also installed most of the codecs
> by installing the Ubuntu Restricted Extras (from the Add/Remove menu)
> 
> <quote>
> To be clear, it is certainly possible to get proprietary multimedia
> codecs and DVD playback capabilities running in Linux, free of charge.
> It's actually fairly simple. And depending on the codec, or your
> country of residence, it could also be illegal
> </quote>
> 
> You might also want to know that Fluendo does also offer free (as in
> Free Beer) codecs to play mp3 file formats.
> 
> Why the move?:
> 
> <quote>
> Canonical aren't able to legally redistribute these codecs. So
> instead, they've opted to open an area in the storefront that makes
> downloading and installing purchased codecs work similarly to
> installing with Synaptic. They've made it so that a complete reinstall
> of a system won't require another codec purchase. They've made the
> best out of the situation.
> </quote>
> 
> Neil: Like I indicated above I havent seen the CSZ newsletter and
> article, but one thing for sure Canonical issued the statement here:
> 
> http://blog.canonical.com/?p=37
> 
> which have been quoted and analyzed here:
> 
> http://ostatic.com/173388-blog/canonical-opens-codec-sales-and-potential-can-of-worms#rss
> 
> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/20762/1090/1/1/
> 
> 
> Personally I strongly feel that this move hurts the spirit of Ubuntu.
> 
> 
> 
> On 25/09/2008, Ganyani Khosa Webmail <khosag at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>         I received my copy today of the abovementioned newsletter. Our
>         article claims UBUNTU is free and another article in the same
>         claims otherwise quoting
>         http://www.itwire.com/content/view/20762/1090/  This does not
>         reflect a good picture of what we are trying to achieve.
>          
>         We also need to pay close attention to the ICT Bill being
>         proposed and ensure that it includes our interests. Lets not
>         let it pass without our due attention. These are the policy
>         issues I said I have keen interest. I will follow this and
>         update team members.
>          
>          
>         Ganyani
> 
> 
> 
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From simbiso at gmail.com  Thu Sep 25 10:00:02 2008
From: simbiso at gmail.com (ronald munjoma)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:00:02 +0200
Subject: Ubuntu loses its virginity, turns commercial
In-Reply-To: <1222332336.7046.75.camel@nit>
References: <b614bab0809250116v1c8754c2o244dde246945c883@mail.gmail.com>
	<1222332336.7046.75.camel@nit>
Message-ID: <b614bab0809250200p1bcf634as5c16fb44daed9811@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Neil,

The problem is not with Ubuntu or Canonical, the problem is with
Intellectual Property Rights, Software Licensing... To me this is akin to
Digital Rights Managements and as you might all know Digital Rights
Management does not work.

Steve Jobs, Apple and the iTunes store revolutionalised the way music is
distributed, they liberated the legal sharing of music files, to me
Ubuntu/Canonical is doing the same with proprietary codecs. They are making
it easy and legal to use proprietary codecs on your Ubuntu box.

Just like with music people have a choice of using the illegal peer to peer
sharing sites or use the legal iTunes store to download their music, in this
case users will also have the choice to use the free (illegal in some
countries) codecs or purchase the legit codecs from Ubuntu.

One important thing about the decision and announcement is the fact that it
does not take away the right and choice of which codec to use, we are still
FREE to choose between the free or commercially available codecs. Another
good thing is when you wipe off your Hard Disk drive you can still go back
to the store and downlaod the codecs for use (which I interpreted to be at
no additional cost)

I dont think the legalities of using the freely available codecs will affect
us this side of the world. We just need to make sure that we all understand
that Ubuntu is FREE (as in both Free Speech and Free Beer) and will remain
so as per Mark and Canonical promise.


It will be interesting to find out how the blogsphere will react to this
news, If i Digg or stumble upon something interesting I will point it out to
the list.

I have noted that Mark has not yet made an official statement or response to
the many questions regarding the announcement.

Good day

Ronald.

On 25/09/2008, Neil Coetzer <ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw> wrote:
>
>  Hi Ronald,
>
> Thanks for the info. Personally I don't really see the problem. The free
> codecs are still available but users have the option of paying if they want
> to make it legal. Ubuntu as we know and use it hasn't changed, as I
> understand it, so I don't really think it damages the spirit of Ubuntu at
> all.... they're just trying to do the right thing. The problem is not with
> Canonical or Ubuntu... the problem is with the fact that such widely used
> codecs are proprietary. That is what needs to change.
>
> Cheers,
> Neil
>
> On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 10:16 +0200, ronald munjoma wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am not subscribed to the newsletter (I will soon), will you please
> forward me a copy.
>
> Here is a generalised response, (I would have loved to read the other
> article refered to).
>
> Ubuntu Linux is Free as in Free Speech (the four Freedoms as stated by the
> Free Software Foundation [reads Richard Stallman] and Free Beer (Gratis, for
> no price). Mark and Canonical have clearly stated that Ubuntu will always
> remain Free and so far they have upheld their promise.
>
> Here is how I interpret the article;
>
> You might be aware that the Ubuntu distribution tries by all means to use
> Free Software (and avoid the inclusion of proprietary software as part of
> the distribution). However one can install restricted software and other
> third party software. The restricted and other third party software usually
> comprise of proprietary drivers and multimedia codecs. There are work
> arounds for most of the restricted software, for example my Aspire 5315
> wireless card, makes use of proprietary drivers, I was able to enable and
> use it by using Ndiswrapper (Ndiswrapper made it possible for me to download
> and use Windows drivers on the Ubuntu box). I have also installed most of
> the codecs by installing the Ubuntu Restricted Extras (from the Add/Remove
> menu)
>
> <quote>
> To be clear, it is certainly possible to get proprietary multimedia codecs
> and DVD playback capabilities running in Linux, free of charge. It's
> actually fairly simple. And depending on the codec, or your country of
> residence, it could also be illegal
> </quote>
>
> You might also want to know that Fluendo does also offer free (as in Free
> Beer) codecs to play mp3 file formats.
>
> Why the move?:
>
> <quote>
> Canonical aren't able to legally redistribute these codecs. So instead,
> they've opted to open an area in the storefront that makes downloading and
> installing purchased codecs work similarly to installing with Synaptic.
> They've made it so that a complete reinstall of a system won't require
> another codec purchase. They've made the best out of the situation.
> </quote>
>
> Neil: Like I indicated above I havent seen the CSZ newsletter and article,
> but one thing for sure Canonical issued the statement here:
>
> http://blog.canonical.com/?p=37
>
> which have been quoted and analyzed here:
>
>
> http://ostatic.com/173388-blog/canonical-opens-codec-sales-and-potential-can-of-worms#rss
>
> http://www.itwire.com/content/view/20762/1090/1/1/
>
>
> Personally I strongly feel that this move hurts the spirit of Ubuntu.
>
>
>  On 25/09/2008, *Ganyani Khosa Webmail* <khosag at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  I received my copy today of the abovementioned newsletter. Our article
> claims UBUNTU is free and another article in the same claims otherwise
> quoting http://www.itwire.com/content/view/20762/1090/  This does not
> reflect a good picture of what we are trying to achieve.
>
>
>
>   We also need to pay close attention to the ICT Bill being proposed and
> ensure that it includes our interests. Lets not let it pass without our due
> attention. These are the policy issues I said I have keen interest. I will
> follow this and update team members.
>
>
>
>
>
>   Ganyani
>
>
>
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From ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw  Fri Sep 26 08:29:44 2008
From: ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw (Neil Coetzer)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:29:44 +0200
Subject: [Fwd: Ubuntu Server survey is now available]
Message-ID: <1222414184.7096.10.camel@nit>

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From: Fabian Rodriguez
Subject: Ubuntu Server survey is now available
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:35:52 -0400


Hi all,

Just a quick note to let you all know that the Ubuntu Server survey is
now available at:
http://survey.ubuntu.com/

Please pass this invitation to participate to all your locoteam
members and Ubuntu Server users you may know!

>From the site:
"Canonical Ltd., the commercial sponsor of Ubuntu, is asking users of
Ubuntu Server edition just exactly how they are using it and in what
kind of organisations.[...]

Ubuntu is the popular Linux distribution for the desktop, laptop, thin
client and server which brings together the best of open source
software every 6 months. Ubuntu is free, and is downloaded from mirror
sites around the world.

The Ubuntu Server community wants to ask a broad set of users to share
their experiences. A previous shorter survey from Canonical was
completed (public results at: www.canonical.com/campaign/server) by
those requesting free server CDs, but this is the first time the
Ubuntu server team is requesting information from the community
worldwide.

Co-sponsored by RedMonk Research, the survey
[http://survey.ubuntu.com/] will gather more detailed knowledge in
order to:

    * Improve future product releases
    * Prioritize feature requests
    * Guide partnerships to add technologies
    * Drive the focus at the next Ubuntu Developer Summit in December 2008

The anonymous survey takes 10 to 20 minutes to complete and is open to
anyone deploying Linux servers today, whether or not they use Ubuntu.
The Ubuntu Server Community Team will present the results in the
beginning of December.

"Our survey earlier this year provided insight into the diversity and
global reach of the Ubuntu Server customer base," said Nick Barcet,
Ubuntu Server product manager at Canonical. "With this survey, we hope
to understand more about them ? including how they are using our
software in their businesses ? in order to better serve them in the
future."

Original anouncement is at:
http://www.ubuntu.com/news/server-team-survey

Cheers,

Fabian

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From ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw  Sat Sep 27 12:41:09 2008
From: ncoetzer at halsteds.co.zw (Neil Coetzer)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:41:09 +0200
Subject: Meeting Agenda
Message-ID: <1222515669.7049.10.camel@nit>

Hi guys,

Please find attached the meeting agenda for next Wednesday, once again
kindly prepared by Ronald.

Please let me know if you will be attending or if you would like to send
your apologies etc. I do hope we will see all the usual faces as well as
a few new ones! All welcome.

Regards,
Neil

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