From luminary06 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 26 07:31:38 2013
From: luminary06 at gmail.com (Kalpesh Thaker)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:31:38 +0200
Subject: [Ubuntu-ZW] Ubuntu Team in 2013
Message-ID: <CAFEqk8bgK5YCMx3yLvUEqKHy=4rbo-wKqr1Nt+jgzOn74tZkRg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Thanks to Garkai's recent article on techzim:
http://www.techzim.co.zw/2013/02/why-translation-of-open-source-software-into-local-languages-has-failed/
i'd like to bring up a discussion on plans for the team in 2013. firstly,
i'd like to apologise for posting this email to the general list..as im not
sure the "team" list is up to date.. but hopefully we can sort that out
with this email... and then keep team communications seperate from the
"general" list in future.

As discussed last year, the team is still very much alive.. but not kicking
as such. i can confidently say that through casual chats with people, there
are a few people out there that are still passionate about ubuntu and FOSS
in general. as im sure most of you know already.. the original ubuntu
zimbabwe loco team was started and run for quite a while by 3 people. so it
is possible to make this happen again if we have enough interest and
commitment. while we've been quite dormant.. canonical have developed
ubuntu for use on smart phones and tablets.. so this is no longer about
desktops and servers anymore. there should be more interest to a wider
audience from now on... (at least it has the potential for a wider audience
i should say)

so.... i havent got that far with drawing up the team constitution
yet...but i have been working on a new website for ubuntu.org.zw. i was
planning on sorting it all out over the december holidays.. but i was
working that whole time.. and didnt get much free time to do anything.

for now.. i'd like to discuss the following.... i'll need as much feedback
from everyone as possible..so that we can start plotting a way forward:

1 - should the LoCo team be revived? if yes, do we play the passive role
(as we have been doing for the last few years), or do we go for an active
role where we physically interact with the public (IT shows, public events
etc)?
2 - what would the team's long and short terms goals be? (will play a huge
role in questions on point #1)
3 - are there any special projects that we should consider taking
preference with immediate effect? Garikai's translation project comes to
mind.. but if anyone else can think of anything else.. please bring forward
to the discussion.
4 - as the ubuntu LoCo team, what do we expect to get out of this team
effort?
5 - as a team effort, which would you say is more important right now,
promoting ubuntu in the local community.. or helping improve the quality of
code in ubuntu (via bugjam sessions and other events)
6 - how do you think the team needs to be setup physically? (traditionally,
there was a team leader and his minions.. but im thinking more along the
lines of a committee..... please share your thoughts/concerns on this)

there are alot of other points that may exist outside of these 6 questions
i've brought up, if you can think of any that you'd like to discuss..
please do share,

i know it would be a good idea to organise a meeting one of these days....
so hopefully if we can gather up enough interest on a way forward, then
that will be the next step.

kalpesh
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From o.sinclair at gmail.com  Tue Feb 26 10:52:36 2013
From: o.sinclair at gmail.com (O. Sinclair)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:52:36 +0200
Subject: [Ubuntu-ZW] Ubuntu Team in 2013
In-Reply-To: <CAFEqk8bgK5YCMx3yLvUEqKHy=4rbo-wKqr1Nt+jgzOn74tZkRg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFEqk8bgK5YCMx3yLvUEqKHy=4rbo-wKqr1Nt+jgzOn74tZkRg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <512C93F4.3090802@gmail.com>

Hi Kalpesh and all,

I am one of those many(?) who have participated in various online/mail 
discussions but never attended meetings, release parties etc.

For a while I had a reasonably large FOSS project based on Kubuntu 
running in 4 countries but that fizzled mainly due to users being 
unhappy with the state of OpenOffice compared to MS Office.

So for a couple of years my Ubuntu/FOSS has more been me/myself/I and my 
family.

That is not an excuse but it has made me a lot less active on forums, 
discussions etc.

Having said that I have noted with some concern the absence of the 
Ubuntu Team/Crew at IT shows and gatherings.

I would love to see it "revived" and I think if we are not seen, then 
anyone outside the immediate "it pro" sphere will not find out about the 
excellent options that the different flavors of Ubuntu offer.

So I am more for "let us become visible" than bugjamming.

As for organisation, well as I have not been active before I am open to 
any idea...

Best,
Sinclair

On 26/02/2013 09:31, Kalpesh Thaker wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Thanks to Garkai's recent article on techzim:
> http://www.techzim.co.zw/2013/02/why-translation-of-open-source-software-into-local-languages-has-failed/
> i'd like to bring up a discussion on plans for the team in 2013.
> firstly, i'd like to apologise for posting this email to the general
> list..as im not sure the "team" list is up to date.. but hopefully we
> can sort that out with this email... and then keep team communications
> seperate from the "general" list in future.
>
> As discussed last year, the team is still very much alive.. but not
> kicking as such. i can confidently say that through casual chats with
> people, there are a few people out there that are still passionate about
> ubuntu and FOSS in general. as im sure most of you know already.. the
> original ubuntu zimbabwe loco team was started and run for quite a while
> by 3 people. so it is possible to make this happen again if we have
> enough interest and commitment. while we've been quite dormant..
> canonical have developed ubuntu for use on smart phones and tablets.. so
> this is no longer about desktops and servers anymore. there should be
> more interest to a wider audience from now on... (at least it has the
> potential for a wider audience i should say)
>
> so.... i havent got that far with drawing up the team constitution
> yet...but i have been working on a new website for ubuntu.org.zw
> <http://ubuntu.org.zw>. i was planning on sorting it all out over the
> december holidays.. but i was working that whole time.. and didnt get
> much free time to do anything.
>
> for now.. i'd like to discuss the following.... i'll need as much
> feedback from everyone as possible..so that we can start plotting a way
> forward:
>
> 1 - should the LoCo team be revived? if yes, do we play the passive role
> (as we have been doing for the last few years), or do we go for an
> active role where we physically interact with the public (IT shows,
> public events etc)?
> 2 - what would the team's long and short terms goals be? (will play a
> huge role in questions on point #1)
> 3 - are there any special projects that we should consider taking
> preference with immediate effect? Garikai's translation project comes to
> mind.. but if anyone else can think of anything else.. please bring
> forward to the discussion.
> 4 - as the ubuntu LoCo team, what do we expect to get out of this team
> effort?
> 5 - as a team effort, which would you say is more important right now,
> promoting ubuntu in the local community.. or helping improve the quality
> of code in ubuntu (via bugjam sessions and other events)
> 6 - how do you think the team needs to be setup physically?
> (traditionally, there was a team leader and his minions.. but im
> thinking more along the lines of a committee..... please share your
> thoughts/concerns on this)
>
> there are alot of other points that may exist outside of these 6
> questions i've brought up, if you can think of any that you'd like to
> discuss.. please do share,
>
> i know it would be a good idea to organise a meeting one of these
> days.... so hopefully if we can gather up enough interest on a way
> forward, then that will be the next step.
>
> kalpesh
>
>
>
>



From achimuzu at yahoo.com.br  Tue Feb 26 11:13:07 2013
From: achimuzu at yahoo.com.br (Antonio Chimuzu)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:13:07 +0200
Subject: [Ubuntu-ZW] Ubuntu Team in 2013
In-Reply-To: <512C93F4.3090802@gmail.com>
References: <CAFEqk8bgK5YCMx3yLvUEqKHy=4rbo-wKqr1Nt+jgzOn74tZkRg@mail.gmail.com>
	<512C93F4.3090802@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <512C98C3.7060008@yahoo.com.br>

Greetings.

This is certainly great.
I've been following the group discussions for years but I've never been 
active.
I am one of those who uses linux 24/7 and believe in its greatness.
I love the idea of visibility by Sinclair (8-) ). Im not sure how I can 
help here but I have this one question.
What about small champions (or groups) in different parts of the country 
coordinated from the LoCo team to spread the word? In some ways some of 
us have been doing that for years, but without any coordination.
Also some institutions could be involved to host expos or events. I know 
some educational institutions would like to hear more about the benefits 
of Ubuntu. They just need a "shout out" and coordination.
I would also think of organizing an Ubuntu/Linux LAN party or a get 
together for Ubuntu enthusiasts.
Lets also (whenever possible) fundraise to burn Ubuntu Copies and 
distribute around the country - I would be very much happy to help with 
this one.
To finish, its also important to know each other, not just by messages 
but also face to face and share ideas.
Hooo. this message is now too long. Bye


A Chimuzu


(\__/)        People who want to share their religious
(='.'=)     visions and beliefs, usually ('')_('')    dont want you to share yours with them.

On 26/02/2013 12:52, O. Sinclair wrote:
> Hi Kalpesh and all,
>
> I am one of those many(?) who have participated in various online/mail 
> discussions but never attended meetings, release parties etc.
>
> For a while I had a reasonably large FOSS project based on Kubuntu 
> running in 4 countries but that fizzled mainly due to users being 
> unhappy with the state of OpenOffice compared to MS Office.
>
> So for a couple of years my Ubuntu/FOSS has more been me/myself/I and 
> my family.
>
> That is not an excuse but it has made me a lot less active on forums, 
> discussions etc.
>
> Having said that I have noted with some concern the absence of the 
> Ubuntu Team/Crew at IT shows and gatherings.
>
> I would love to see it "revived" and I think if we are not seen, then 
> anyone outside the immediate "it pro" sphere will not find out about 
> the excellent options that the different flavors of Ubuntu offer.
>
> So I am more for "let us become visible" than bugjamming.
>
> As for organisation, well as I have not been active before I am open 
> to any idea...
>
> Best,
> Sinclair
>
> On 26/02/2013 09:31, Kalpesh Thaker wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Thanks to Garkai's recent article on techzim:
>> http://www.techzim.co.zw/2013/02/why-translation-of-open-source-software-into-local-languages-has-failed/ 
>>
>> i'd like to bring up a discussion on plans for the team in 2013.
>> firstly, i'd like to apologise for posting this email to the general
>> list..as im not sure the "team" list is up to date.. but hopefully we
>> can sort that out with this email... and then keep team communications
>> seperate from the "general" list in future.
>>
>> As discussed last year, the team is still very much alive.. but not
>> kicking as such. i can confidently say that through casual chats with
>> people, there are a few people out there that are still passionate about
>> ubuntu and FOSS in general. as im sure most of you know already.. the
>> original ubuntu zimbabwe loco team was started and run for quite a while
>> by 3 people. so it is possible to make this happen again if we have
>> enough interest and commitment. while we've been quite dormant..
>> canonical have developed ubuntu for use on smart phones and tablets.. so
>> this is no longer about desktops and servers anymore. there should be
>> more interest to a wider audience from now on... (at least it has the
>> potential for a wider audience i should say)
>>
>> so.... i havent got that far with drawing up the team constitution
>> yet...but i have been working on a new website for ubuntu.org.zw
>> <http://ubuntu.org.zw>. i was planning on sorting it all out over the
>> december holidays.. but i was working that whole time.. and didnt get
>> much free time to do anything.
>>
>> for now.. i'd like to discuss the following.... i'll need as much
>> feedback from everyone as possible..so that we can start plotting a way
>> forward:
>>
>> 1 - should the LoCo team be revived? if yes, do we play the passive role
>> (as we have been doing for the last few years), or do we go for an
>> active role where we physically interact with the public (IT shows,
>> public events etc)?
>> 2 - what would the team's long and short terms goals be? (will play a
>> huge role in questions on point #1)
>> 3 - are there any special projects that we should consider taking
>> preference with immediate effect? Garikai's translation project comes to
>> mind.. but if anyone else can think of anything else.. please bring
>> forward to the discussion.
>> 4 - as the ubuntu LoCo team, what do we expect to get out of this team
>> effort?
>> 5 - as a team effort, which would you say is more important right now,
>> promoting ubuntu in the local community.. or helping improve the quality
>> of code in ubuntu (via bugjam sessions and other events)
>> 6 - how do you think the team needs to be setup physically?
>> (traditionally, there was a team leader and his minions.. but im
>> thinking more along the lines of a committee..... please share your
>> thoughts/concerns on this)
>>
>> there are alot of other points that may exist outside of these 6
>> questions i've brought up, if you can think of any that you'd like to
>> discuss.. please do share,
>>
>> i know it would be a good idea to organise a meeting one of these
>> days.... so hopefully if we can gather up enough interest on a way
>> forward, then that will be the next step.
>>
>> kalpesh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



From eng at waverley.co.zw  Tue Feb 26 13:09:39 2013
From: eng at waverley.co.zw (craig)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:09:39 +0200
Subject: [Ubuntu-ZW] Ubuntu-zw Digest, Vol 67, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.154.1361880039.9055.ubuntu-zw@lists.ubuntu.com>
References: <mailman.154.1361880039.9055.ubuntu-zw@lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <512CB413.6040900@waverley.co.zw>

Likewise a  5 year ubuntu user will help , but no time for meetings , 
can help with installation, live cd, configuration ,drivers etc for home 
users

Craig

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From khosag at hotmail.com  Tue Feb 26 15:03:55 2013
From: khosag at hotmail.com (Khosa Ganyani - Webmail)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:03:55 +0200
Subject: [Ubuntu-ZW] Ubuntu Team in 2013
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Thank you for this communication. Been out of Zim for the past two years and was not available to attend meetings and give input. I am back now and I remain passionate about Ubuntu and the Loco Team. Lets revive ourselves and focus more on raising the visibility of Ubuntu as a first priority. Finding something to motivate ourselves is also a critical step in ensuring the sustainability of the loco team. What is in it for the Loco Team members? 

If we are still welcome at Joseph's place, then I would suggest a meeting at the earliest convenience. 

Ganyani Khosa

Sent from my iPod

On 26 Feb,2013, at 9:31 AM, Kalpesh Thaker <luminary06 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Thanks to Garkai's recent article on techzim: http://www.techzim.co.zw/2013/02/why-translation-of-open-source-software-into-local-languages-has-failed/
> i'd like to bring up a discussion on plans for the team in 2013. firstly, i'd like to apologise for posting this email to the general list..as im not sure the "team" list is up to date.. but hopefully we can sort that out with this email... and then keep team communications seperate from the "general" list in future.
> 
> As discussed last year, the team is still very much alive.. but not kicking as such. i can confidently say that through casual chats with people, there are a few people out there that are still passionate about ubuntu and FOSS in general. as im sure most of you know already.. the original ubuntu zimbabwe loco team was started and run for quite a while by 3 people. so it is possible to make this happen again if we have enough interest and commitment. while we've been quite dormant.. canonical have developed ubuntu for use on smart phones and tablets.. so this is no longer about desktops and servers anymore. there should be more interest to a wider audience from now on... (at least it has the potential for a wider audience i should say)
> 
> so.... i havent got that far with drawing up the team constitution yet...but i have been working on a new website for ubuntu.org.zw. i was planning on sorting it all out over the december holidays.. but i was working that whole time.. and didnt get much free time to do anything. 
> 
> for now.. i'd like to discuss the following.... i'll need as much feedback from everyone as possible..so that we can start plotting a way forward:
> 
> 1 - should the LoCo team be revived? if yes, do we play the passive role (as we have been doing for the last few years), or do we go for an active role where we physically interact with the public (IT shows, public events etc)?
> 2 - what would the team's long and short terms goals be? (will play a huge role in questions on point #1)
> 3 - are there any special projects that we should consider taking preference with immediate effect? Garikai's translation project comes to mind.. but if anyone else can think of anything else.. please bring forward to the discussion.
> 4 - as the ubuntu LoCo team, what do we expect to get out of this team effort?
> 5 - as a team effort, which would you say is more important right now, promoting ubuntu in the local community.. or helping improve the quality of code in ubuntu (via bugjam sessions and other events)
> 6 - how do you think the team needs to be setup physically? (traditionally, there was a team leader and his minions.. but im thinking more along the lines of a committee..... please share your thoughts/concerns on this) 
> 
> there are alot of other points that may exist outside of these 6 questions i've brought up, if you can think of any that you'd like to discuss.. please do share,
> 
> i know it would be a good idea to organise a meeting one of these days.... so hopefully if we can gather up enough interest on a way forward, then that will be the next step.
> 
> kalpesh
> 
> 
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From arthur at ubuntu.org.zw  Wed Feb 27 10:52:00 2013
From: arthur at ubuntu.org.zw (Arthur Garande)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:52:00 +0200
Subject: [Ubuntu-ZW] Ubuntu Team in 2013
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i am in.

On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Khosa Ganyani - Webmail <khosag at hotmail.com
> wrote:

> Thank you for this communication. Been out of Zim for the past two years
> and was not available to attend meetings and give input. I am back now and
> I remain passionate about Ubuntu and the Loco Team. Lets revive ourselves
> and focus more on raising the visibility of Ubuntu as a first priority.
> Finding something to motivate ourselves is also a critical step in ensuring
> the sustainability of the loco team. What is in it for the Loco Team
> members?
>
> If we are still welcome at Joseph's place, then I would suggest a meeting
> at the earliest convenience.
>
> Ganyani Khosa
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On 26 Feb,2013, at 9:31 AM, Kalpesh Thaker <luminary06 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Thanks to Garkai's recent article on techzim:
> http://www.techzim.co.zw/2013/02/why-translation-of-open-source-software-into-local-languages-has-failed/
> i'd like to bring up a discussion on plans for the team in 2013. firstly,
> i'd like to apologise for posting this email to the general list..as im not
> sure the "team" list is up to date.. but hopefully we can sort that out
> with this email... and then keep team communications seperate from the
> "general" list in future.
>
> As discussed last year, the team is still very much alive.. but not
> kicking as such. i can confidently say that through casual chats with
> people, there are a few people out there that are still passionate about
> ubuntu and FOSS in general. as im sure most of you know already.. the
> original ubuntu zimbabwe loco team was started and run for quite a while by
> 3 people. so it is possible to make this happen again if we have enough
> interest and commitment. while we've been quite dormant.. canonical have
> developed ubuntu for use on smart phones and tablets.. so this is no longer
> about desktops and servers anymore. there should be more interest to a
> wider audience from now on... (at least it has the potential for a wider
> audience i should say)
>
> so.... i havent got that far with drawing up the team constitution
> yet...but i have been working on a new website for ubuntu.org.zw. i was
> planning on sorting it all out over the december holidays.. but i was
> working that whole time.. and didnt get much free time to do anything.
>
> for now.. i'd like to discuss the following.... i'll need as much feedback
> from everyone as possible..so that we can start plotting a way forward:
>
> 1 - should the LoCo team be revived? if yes, do we play the passive role
> (as we have been doing for the last few years), or do we go for an active
> role where we physically interact with the public (IT shows, public events
> etc)?
> 2 - what would the team's long and short terms goals be? (will play a huge
> role in questions on point #1)
> 3 - are there any special projects that we should consider taking
> preference with immediate effect? Garikai's translation project comes to
> mind.. but if anyone else can think of anything else.. please bring forward
> to the discussion.
> 4 - as the ubuntu LoCo team, what do we expect to get out of this team
> effort?
> 5 - as a team effort, which would you say is more important right now,
> promoting ubuntu in the local community.. or helping improve the quality of
> code in ubuntu (via bugjam sessions and other events)
> 6 - how do you think the team needs to be setup physically?
> (traditionally, there was a team leader and his minions.. but im thinking
> more along the lines of a committee..... please share your
> thoughts/concerns on this)
>
> there are alot of other points that may exist outside of these 6 questions
> i've brought up, if you can think of any that you'd like to discuss..
> please do share,
>
> i know it would be a good idea to organise a meeting one of these days....
> so hopefully if we can gather up enough interest on a way forward, then
> that will be the next step.
>
> kalpesh
>
>
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From kudakwashe.dube at rukanda.com  Thu Feb 28 06:34:08 2013
From: kudakwashe.dube at rukanda.com (Dr Kuda Dube Rukanda)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:34:08 +1300
Subject: [Ubuntu-ZW] Ubuntu Team in 2013
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 <512C93F4.3090802@gmail.com>
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Being out of Zim myself and yet having the passion to see improvements
within the FOSS Community in Zim, I tend not to make immediately actionable
comments/suggestions and, instead, make broader comments that relate more
to the FOSS community policy and strategies. Here it is ...

As long as FOSS activists in Zimbabwe remain dormant and overhelmed by
yet-to-be-researched-into factors that have dogged the formation of a
sustainably vibrant FOSS community, special interest groups, such as the
Ubuntu  LocoTeam, within the FOSS community in Zimbabwe will continue to
suffer visibility problems.

I am aware of the arguments for rallying around products as  a way to bring
about a vibrant community. As demonstrated by the Ubuntu Community, when
the move from ZOSS was made, it would seem that we need more than just
rallying around FOSS products. We need efforts that are broader
FOSS-oriented than SIGs and we need to bring the education and awarenes of
both the FOSS culture and technologies to the youths in schools, colleges
and universities.

We certainly massively appreciate the efforts of professionals and business
people like Kalpesh who provide infrastructure such as the Ubuntu mirrors.
Education agencies (e.g., ZARnet) should also help with not only the
infrastructure but also in promoting sustainable FOSS communities. The
infrastructure should be broadened to include the entire FOSS ecosystem of
technologies.

May be the Ubuntu LocoTeam needs to look into engaging more both public and
private institutions AND all institutions that have to do with youths
education and training and local communities.

Having said all the above, we should all notice that FOSS community
visibility is generally proving hard to achieve around the world except in
countries, like Brazil, France and germany, where the Government publicly
funds, encourages and invests in FOSS technologies and innovation. This
creates wealth and human capital for the country - is our MoICT aware of
this, may be not?


On 26 February 2013 23:52, O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Kalpesh and all,
>
> I am one of those many(?) who have participated in various online/mail
> discussions but never attended meetings, release parties etc.
>
> For a while I had a reasonably large FOSS project based on Kubuntu running
> in 4 countries but that fizzled mainly due to users being unhappy with the
> state of OpenOffice compared to MS Office.
>
> So for a couple of years my Ubuntu/FOSS has more been me/myself/I and my
> family.
>
> That is not an excuse but it has made me a lot less active on forums,
> discussions etc.
>
> Having said that I have noted with some concern the absence of the Ubuntu
> Team/Crew at IT shows and gatherings.
>
> I would love to see it "revived" and I think if we are not seen, then
> anyone outside the immediate "it pro" sphere will not find out about the
> excellent options that the different flavors of Ubuntu offer.
>
> So I am more for "let us become visible" than bugjamming.
>
> As for organisation, well as I have not been active before I am open to
> any idea...
>
> Best,
> Sinclair
>
>
> On 26/02/2013 09:31, Kalpesh Thaker wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Thanks to Garkai's recent article on techzim:
>> http://www.techzim.co.zw/2013/**02/why-translation-of-open-**
>> source-software-into-local-**languages-has-failed/<http://www.techzim.co.zw/2013/02/why-translation-of-open-source-software-into-local-languages-has-failed/>
>> i'd like to bring up a discussion on plans for the team in 2013.
>> firstly, i'd like to apologise for posting this email to the general
>> list..as im not sure the "team" list is up to date.. but hopefully we
>> can sort that out with this email... and then keep team communications
>> seperate from the "general" list in future.
>>
>> As discussed last year, the team is still very much alive.. but not
>> kicking as such. i can confidently say that through casual chats with
>> people, there are a few people out there that are still passionate about
>> ubuntu and FOSS in general. as im sure most of you know already.. the
>> original ubuntu zimbabwe loco team was started and run for quite a while
>> by 3 people. so it is possible to make this happen again if we have
>> enough interest and commitment. while we've been quite dormant..
>> canonical have developed ubuntu for use on smart phones and tablets.. so
>> this is no longer about desktops and servers anymore. there should be
>> more interest to a wider audience from now on... (at least it has the
>> potential for a wider audience i should say)
>>
>> so.... i havent got that far with drawing up the team constitution
>> yet...but i have been working on a new website for ubuntu.org.zw
>> <http://ubuntu.org.zw>. i was planning on sorting it all out over the
>>
>> december holidays.. but i was working that whole time.. and didnt get
>> much free time to do anything.
>>
>> for now.. i'd like to discuss the following.... i'll need as much
>> feedback from everyone as possible..so that we can start plotting a way
>> forward:
>>
>> 1 - should the LoCo team be revived? if yes, do we play the passive role
>> (as we have been doing for the last few years), or do we go for an
>> active role where we physically interact with the public (IT shows,
>> public events etc)?
>> 2 - what would the team's long and short terms goals be? (will play a
>> huge role in questions on point #1)
>> 3 - are there any special projects that we should consider taking
>> preference with immediate effect? Garikai's translation project comes to
>> mind.. but if anyone else can think of anything else.. please bring
>> forward to the discussion.
>> 4 - as the ubuntu LoCo team, what do we expect to get out of this team
>> effort?
>> 5 - as a team effort, which would you say is more important right now,
>> promoting ubuntu in the local community.. or helping improve the quality
>> of code in ubuntu (via bugjam sessions and other events)
>> 6 - how do you think the team needs to be setup physically?
>> (traditionally, there was a team leader and his minions.. but im
>> thinking more along the lines of a committee..... please share your
>> thoughts/concerns on this)
>>
>> there are alot of other points that may exist outside of these 6
>> questions i've brought up, if you can think of any that you'd like to
>> discuss.. please do share,
>>
>> i know it would be a good idea to organise a meeting one of these
>> days.... so hopefully if we can gather up enough interest on a way
>> forward, then that will be the next step.
>>
>> kalpesh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:15:48 +0200
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in too.

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Arthur Garande <arthur at ubuntu.org.zw>wrote:

> i am in.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Khosa Ganyani - Webmail <
> khosag at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for this communication. Been out of Zim for the past two years
>> and was not available to attend meetings and give input. I am back now and
>> I remain passionate about Ubuntu and the Loco Team. Lets revive ourselves
>> and focus more on raising the visibility of Ubuntu as a first priority.
>> Finding something to motivate ourselves is also a critical step in ensuring
>> the sustainability of the loco team. What is in it for the Loco Team
>> members?
>>
>> If we are still welcome at Joseph's place, then I would suggest a meeting
>> at the earliest convenience.
>>
>> Ganyani Khosa
>>
>> Sent from my iPod
>>
>> On 26 Feb,2013, at 9:31 AM, Kalpesh Thaker <luminary06 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Thanks to Garkai's recent article on techzim:
>> http://www.techzim.co.zw/2013/02/why-translation-of-open-source-software-into-local-languages-has-failed/
>> i'd like to bring up a discussion on plans for the team in 2013. firstly,
>> i'd like to apologise for posting this email to the general list..as im not
>> sure the "team" list is up to date.. but hopefully we can sort that out
>> with this email... and then keep team communications seperate from the
>> "general" list in future.
>>
>> As discussed last year, the team is still very much alive.. but not
>> kicking as such. i can confidently say that through casual chats with
>> people, there are a few people out there that are still passionate about
>> ubuntu and FOSS in general. as im sure most of you know already.. the
>> original ubuntu zimbabwe loco team was started and run for quite a while by
>> 3 people. so it is possible to make this happen again if we have enough
>> interest and commitment. while we've been quite dormant.. canonical have
>> developed ubuntu for use on smart phones and tablets.. so this is no longer
>> about desktops and servers anymore. there should be more interest to a
>> wider audience from now on... (at least it has the potential for a wider
>> audience i should say)
>>
>> so.... i havent got that far with drawing up the team constitution
>> yet...but i have been working on a new website for ubuntu.org.zw. i was
>> planning on sorting it all out over the december holidays.. but i was
>> working that whole time.. and didnt get much free time to do anything.
>>
>> for now.. i'd like to discuss the following.... i'll need as much
>> feedback from everyone as possible..so that we can start plotting a way
>> forward:
>>
>> 1 - should the LoCo team be revived? if yes, do we play the passive role
>> (as we have been doing for the last few years), or do we go for an active
>> role where we physically interact with the public (IT shows, public events
>> etc)?
>> 2 - what would the team's long and short terms goals be? (will play a
>> huge role in questions on point #1)
>> 3 - are there any special projects that we should consider taking
>> preference with immediate effect? Garikai's translation project comes to
>> mind.. but if anyone else can think of anything else.. please bring forward
>> to the discussion.
>> 4 - as the ubuntu LoCo team, what do we expect to get out of this team
>> effort?
>> 5 - as a team effort, which would you say is more important right now,
>> promoting ubuntu in the local community.. or helping improve the quality of
>> code in ubuntu (via bugjam sessions and other events)
>> 6 - how do you think the team needs to be setup physically?
>> (traditionally, there was a team leader and his minions.. but im thinking
>> more along the lines of a committee..... please share your
>> thoughts/concerns on this)
>>
>> there are alot of other points that may exist outside of these 6
>> questions i've brought up, if you can think of any that you'd like to
>> discuss.. please do share,
>>
>> i know it would be a good idea to organise a meeting one of these
>> days.... so hopefully if we can gather up enough interest on a way forward,
>> then that will be the next step.
>>
>> kalpesh
>>
>>
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>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-zw
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>>
>>
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>
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