re hot to documents and bootdisk

[Ray Burke]

Nils in X,

 

so you mean to reply after the previous help was requested like I will do now, 

but hotmail auto answers with reply first to questioned asked????

 

ray
 
> From: stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net
> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: re hot to documents and bootdisk
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:14:41 -0500
> 
> On Friday 20 February 2009 16:09:43 Nils Kassube wrote:
> > Ray Burke wrote:
> > > Nils,
> > >
> > > what do you mean by this "It would be nice if you would stop top
> > > posting."
> >
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style>
> > <http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists/etiquette>
> >
> >
> > Nils
> I don't know where your cursor appears when you click reply, but if it doesn't 
> appear above the reply, you are moving it there yourself. If you are doing 
> that, it is top posting. I used to do it, too.
> 
> The guys that help us, read through thousands of emails to get to the ones 
> they can help with. As a result, by top posting you force them to read 
> irrelevant data, unless your post is something they can help you with.
> 
> They don't get paid to help us; it is kindness on their part, so one thing you 
> can do to help them help us is to not top post. Another is to delete all the 
> irrelevant portions of your answer to their answer. For instance if three 
> paragraphs of your question do not apply to what you are responding to after 
> getting help, and you are replying to something the helper misunderstood, 
> simply delete all the irrelevant paragraphs, in fact, everything that isn't 
> relevant, signatures, dates, greetings, etc., to shorten your reply. This 
> saves them having to re-read unnecessary material and they will use the time 
> to help others in need.
> 
> I am still learning to properly trim messages, but I am trying, so at least I 
> am trimming some of what should be removed. If I were smarter or more 
> experienced I would save them more time that I still waste by improper 
> trimming. They never complain after the process of learning has started 
> because they notice I am trying. Those of us who make the most errors are the 
> ones who need help most, so they get used to our names and notice our 
> progress.
> 
> It is quite unusual for me to post help to another. I simply an unsure of 
> myself. Nonetheless, the other day, I posted a solution to a problem. 
> Apparently I did it right, because one these marvelous people who helps us 
> wrote a comment to my personal address, off the list. He said he was smiling, 
> because I was now contributing, and apparently properly so. I am anxious to 
> help like they do. They are genious'. To know so much is worth a lot of 
> money, and they give it freely to us.
> 
> In the future you will see a time when your long 10 paragraph request is 
> trimmed to perhaps 3 or 4 words and then your response. What a kind thing you 
> do for people who are providing you with FREE perhaps $150 per hour help. In 
> time you will come to love these guys. They are the best of us. And Nils is 
> one of the very best. He is kind enough to point out to you something you can 
> do to help. His references to wikipedia are a way for you to do the work you 
> should be doing to help yourself. It saves him having to make an unnecessary 
> reply, and it helps you find things for yourself that don't require taking time 
> from the list. That is a special gift, because by teaching you how to help 
> yourself, you become more expert in the use of Linux. I hope my unrequested 
> reply is not offensive, I just am trying to help. 
> 
> These seven paragraphs would have been required by Nils to get this point 
> through, when the link allowed someone else who has written it already to 
> serve you. He could help 3 or perhaps 4 people in the time it took me to 
> explain. If this helps, you don't have to reply, even with thanks. If it 
> doesn't, I hope that it does not anger you. I am just trying to help you too.
> 
> Steven
> 
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