Going nuts on Nepomuk

[Reinhold Rumberger]

On Monday 28 June 2010, O. Sinclair wrote:
> On 25/06/2010 16:47, Valter Mura wrote:
> > In data venerdì 25 giugno 2010 13:35:01, O. Sinclair ha scritto:
> >> Every time I boot I have to start Strigi manually, first I get
> >> a message "Strigi service failed to initialize,
> >> most likely due to an installation problem."

Strigi is completely independent of Nepomuk and KDE in general. 
Nepomuk just uses it like any browser may use a web server. And like 
you would (hopefully) not blame server configuration errors on the 
browser, you shouldn't blame Nepomuk for your incorrectly configured 
Strigi. (You *do* have the strigi-daemon package installed, don't 
you?)

> >> It then starts and seemingly starts to index but no tag or such
> >> things exist in Dolphin and every time I reboot I come back to
> >> the same scenario.
> >> 
> >> Any ideas, I can not find any info on how to trace if Nepomuk
> >> even works...

Simple: if you're able to tag files in dolphin, Nepomuk works...
Also, if it doesn't cause some error popup, that's a strong 
indication that it works...

> >> or where any logs might be or even so much as a
> >> FAQ "out there"
> >> 
> >> Sinclair, somewhat longing back to 9.10 "stable"
> 
> After MUCH searching I have a bad feeling that installing
> openoffice Base that pulls in Sun Java and removes OpenJava (or
> whatever it is called) is the problem. As it seems that strigi
> backend virtouos or soprano or whatever it is called depends on
> java. Possibly.

That's not the/a problem.

> seriously, I am consider backing down to 9.10 and stay there until
> KDE SC 4 or 5 or something becomes stable and just not ambitious

It is rather stable, the main problem now is that not all apps have 
(fully) transitioned to the new framework...
Also, in the case of Akonadi, there's a serious lack of testing.

<snip rant> 

> However, sorry for the rant but can we (read the developers and
> maintainers) focus on stability and functionality for a while
> before dreaming up new innovations that noone uses?

You're seemingly confusing Kubuntu, KDE and the kernel. KDE has 
nothing to do with the kernel, and they haven't done much innovating 
since KDE 4.3. The last few releases had their main focus on 
stability and Look&Feel - Kubuntu fucking up the configuration can't 
be blamed on KDE and isn't a reason for them to stop development.

> I support and maintain around 150 users mixed WindowsXP, Windows7,
> Kubuntu 8.04 and 9.10. NO USER sits and tags/rates their files or
> use any computer search engine. Mostly they use
> wordprocessing/spreadsheets, email software, internet browsing,
> listen to music and edit a photo now and then. 3G USB modems are
> increasingly becoming the normal way to connect outside
> offices/hotels.

They don't need Nepomuk then, do they now? Maybe you should simply 
disable it and save yourself some system resources while you're about 
it...

<snipping COM rant>

Akonadi, DBUS, HAL and all the other innovations aren't like COM at 
all. You're comparing comparing apples with cow dung here... :-P

  --Reinhold