Going nuts on Nepomuk

[O. Sinclair]

On 28/06/2010 12:08, Reinhold Rumberger wrote:
> On Monday 28 June 2010, O. Sinclair wrote:
>> On 28/06/2010 10:22, Reinhold Rumberger wrote:
>>> On Monday 28 June 2010, O. Sinclair wrote:
>>> That's not the/a problem.
>>>
>>>> seriously, I am consider backing down to 9.10 and stay there
>>>> until KDE SC 4 or 5 or something becomes stable and just not
>>>> ambitious
>>>
>>> It is rather stable, the main problem now is that not all apps
>>> have (fully) transitioned to the new framework...
>>> Also, in the case of Akonadi, there's a serious lack of testing.
>>>
>>> <snip rant>
>>>
>>>> However, sorry for the rant but can we (read the developers and
>>>> maintainers) focus on stability and functionality for a while
>>>> before dreaming up new innovations that noone uses?
>>>
>>> You're seemingly confusing Kubuntu, KDE and the kernel. KDE has
>>> nothing to do with the kernel, and they haven't done much
>>> innovating since KDE 4.3. The last few releases had their main
>>> focus on stability and Look&Feel - Kubuntu fucking up the
>>> configuration can't be blamed on KDE and isn't a reason for
>>> them to stop development.
>>>
>>>> I support and maintain around 150 users mixed WindowsXP,
>>>> Windows7, Kubuntu 8.04 and 9.10. NO USER sits and tags/rates
>>>> their files or use any computer search engine. Mostly they use
>>>> wordprocessing/spreadsheets, email software, internet browsing,
>>>> listen to music and edit a photo now and then. 3G USB modems
>>>> are increasingly becoming the normal way to connect outside
>>>> offices/hotels.
>>>
>>> They don't need Nepomuk then, do they now? Maybe you should
>>> simply disable it and save yourself some system resources while
>>> you're about it...
>>>
>>> <snipping COM rant>
>>>
>>> Akonadi, DBUS, HAL and all the other innovations aren't like COM
>>> at all. You're comparing comparing apples with cow dung here...
>>> :-P
>>
>> Well - I agree with you that I confuse distribution issues with
>> KDE issues... as I have stated in other emails though I feel that
>> an LTS release should focus on stability and I am not getting
>> that feeling from 10.04. Whether that is Ubuntu or Kubuntu or the
>> choice of KDE SC version I can not yet say.
>
> You should remember that K/Ubuntu have to run on a lot of different
> systems. Using outdated software isn't really an option here. Also,
> even though LTS releases are supposed to be more stable than others,
> Ubuntu still focuses on getting the most recent software versions
> out. If you absolutely need a rock-solid distro, Ubuntu really isn't
> the right choice.
>
>> And as for Nepomuk - I have tried looking around (and I am no
>> newbie) for documentation on how it works, how I can try and find
>> errors, logs etc. I have found nothing.
>>
>> As it is now, no I can not rate, tag or comment though the panels
>> are there in Dolphin. Neither is there any Nepomuk-info in
>> Krunner
>>
>> When I first disable Strigi, then Nepomuk and then enable them
>> again I get the following message on Strigi before it seemingly
>> starts: "The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not
>> provided by any .service files"
>
> Entering that message in google gives me a lot of hits - do none of
> them help at all?
>
>> this seems to be related to the backend that should be virtuoso.
>> But what it means, what Nepomuk or Strigi needs etc - I am in the
>> dark.
>>
>> Any pointers welcome
>
> Seeing as I don't care for the tagging or having my system
> periodically tied up completely, I've never really bothered with
> Nepomuk... (except to disable it)
>
> A quick look around finds the following directory, which might
> interest you:
> /home/<user>/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend/
> (other directories below /home/<user>/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/ don't
> contain anything here, but might still be worth checking out)
>
> You may also get some info from executing
> nepomukservicestub nepomukstorage
> or
> nepomukservicestub nepomukstrigiservice
>
> BTW, I get an error similar to yours, but that isn't surprising as I
> don't have strigi installed...
>
>    --Reinhold
>
Well as it is - when Nepomuk works I see no impact on resources though I 
have heard others have problems. You got me a bit on the track with the 
.kde/share.... directories, as I restored user data I guess I put back 
old stuff there. I emptied them... and voila Nepomuk started to work.

BUT still refuses to autostart and I have manually restart 2-3 times. 
And no internet links regarding the error message has given any help

Sinclair