Going nuts on Nepomuk

[Reinhold Rumberger]

On Monday 28 June 2010, O. Sinclair wrote:
> On 28/06/2010 10:22, Reinhold Rumberger wrote:
> > On Monday 28 June 2010, O. Sinclair wrote:
> > That's not the/a problem.
> > 
> >> seriously, I am consider backing down to 9.10 and stay there
> >> until KDE SC 4 or 5 or something becomes stable and just not
> >> ambitious
> > 
> > It is rather stable, the main problem now is that not all apps
> > have (fully) transitioned to the new framework...
> > Also, in the case of Akonadi, there's a serious lack of testing.
> > 
> > <snip rant>
> > 
> >> However, sorry for the rant but can we (read the developers and
> >> maintainers) focus on stability and functionality for a while
> >> before dreaming up new innovations that noone uses?
> > 
> > You're seemingly confusing Kubuntu, KDE and the kernel. KDE has
> > nothing to do with the kernel, and they haven't done much
> > innovating since KDE 4.3. The last few releases had their main
> > focus on stability and Look&Feel - Kubuntu fucking up the
> > configuration can't be blamed on KDE and isn't a reason for
> > them to stop development.
> > 
> >> I support and maintain around 150 users mixed WindowsXP,
> >> Windows7, Kubuntu 8.04 and 9.10. NO USER sits and tags/rates
> >> their files or use any computer search engine. Mostly they use
> >> wordprocessing/spreadsheets, email software, internet browsing,
> >> listen to music and edit a photo now and then. 3G USB modems
> >> are increasingly becoming the normal way to connect outside
> >> offices/hotels.
> > 
> > They don't need Nepomuk then, do they now? Maybe you should
> > simply disable it and save yourself some system resources while
> > you're about it...
> > 
> > <snipping COM rant>
> > 
> > Akonadi, DBUS, HAL and all the other innovations aren't like COM
> > at all. You're comparing comparing apples with cow dung here...
> > :-P
> 
> Well - I agree with you that I confuse distribution issues with
> KDE issues... as I have stated in other emails though I feel that
> an LTS release should focus on stability and I am not getting
> that feeling from 10.04. Whether that is Ubuntu or Kubuntu or the
> choice of KDE SC version I can not yet say.

You should remember that K/Ubuntu have to run on a lot of different 
systems. Using outdated software isn't really an option here. Also, 
even though LTS releases are supposed to be more stable than others, 
Ubuntu still focuses on getting the most recent software versions 
out. If you absolutely need a rock-solid distro, Ubuntu really isn't 
the right choice.

> And as for Nepomuk - I have tried looking around (and I am no
> newbie) for documentation on how it works, how I can try and find
> errors, logs etc. I have found nothing.
> 
> As it is now, no I can not rate, tag or comment though the panels
> are there in Dolphin. Neither is there any Nepomuk-info in
> Krunner
> 
> When I first disable Strigi, then Nepomuk and then enable them
> again I get the following message on Strigi before it seemingly
> starts: "The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not
> provided by any .service files"

Entering that message in google gives me a lot of hits - do none of 
them help at all?

> this seems to be related to the backend that should be virtuoso.
> But what it means, what Nepomuk or Strigi needs etc - I am in the
> dark.
> 
> Any pointers welcome

Seeing as I don't care for the tagging or having my system 
periodically tied up completely, I've never really bothered with 
Nepomuk... (except to disable it)

A quick look around finds the following directory, which might 
interest you: 
/home/<user>/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend/
(other directories below /home/<user>/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/ don't 
contain anything here, but might still be worth checking out)

You may also get some info from executing
nepomukservicestub nepomukstorage
or
nepomukservicestub nepomukstrigiservice

BTW, I get an error similar to yours, but that isn't surprising as I 
don't have strigi installed...

  --Reinhold