Ubuntu 11.10 makes Unity compulsory
Cybe R. Wizard
cybe_r_wizard at earthlink.net
Mon Apr 4 14:32:19 UTC 2011
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:47:41 +0100
Avi <lists at avi.co> wrote:
> Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> > I am actually quite ready for someone to show me
> > unequivocally how the Israeli government differs from Judaism.
> > Can you?
>
> I think that in order to do that I'd need some help understanding why
> they'd be viewed as the same; it's a distinction a lot of other
> people find comes naturally.
Many people wear blinders regularly. Understand, I have no religion
nor any religious bone to pick with anyone's choice of strange beliefs
based on nothing. I just recognize facts which are right under my nose.
Have you looked at the Israeli flag or the Israeli emblem?
They are, respectively, the Star of David and the Menorah. I
do believe that both of those are Jewish.
How about this from Wikipedia :
"The modern State of Israel was declared in 1948, and traces its
historical and religious roots to the Biblical Land of Israel, also
known as Zion, a concept central to Judaism since ancient times."
or this:
"The name Israel has historically been used, in common and religious
usage, to refer to the Land of Israel, the biblical Kingdom of Israel
and the entire Jewish nation. According to the Bible, the name
"Israel" was given to the patriarch Jacob (Standard Yisraʾel, Isrāʾīl;
Septuagint Greek: Ἰσραήλ; "persevere with God") after he
successfully wrestled with an angel of God."
How about the fact that Israel doesn't yet have a written constitution
because:
"The Religious Jews at the time opposed the idea of their nation having
a document which the government would regard as nominally "higher" in
authority than religious texts such as the Tanakh, Talmud, and Shulkhan
Arukh."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Laws_of_Israel
How about, "Founding of the State," from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_State
"The concept of a national homeland for the Jewish people in the
British Mandate of Palestine was enshrined in Israeli national policy
and reflected in many of Israel's public and national institutions. The
concept was expressed in the Declaration of the Establishment of the
State of Israel on 14 May 1948 and given concrete expression in the Law
of Return, passed by the Knesset on 5 July 1950, which declared: "Every
Jew has the right to come to this country as an oleh." This was
extended in 1970 to include non-Jews with a Jewish grandparent, and
their spouses."
Here's a whole wikipedia page dealing with just that controversy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_state
Again, show me (please) how Israel and Judaism are no one and the same.
Cybe R. Wizard
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