[Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu life in Belgium

Jurgen Gaeremyn jurgen.gaeremyn at pandora.be
Fri May 2 04:36:26 UTC 2014


I think any of the hackerspaces will be willing to accomodate... people 
living near train stations on our group might too...

Possibly I can't be available myself (wife is pregnant and due for June 
4th) but I'm pretty sure Hackerspace Brussels (hackerspace.be) would be 
glad to offer you a chair in the space or the garden...

Grtz,
Jurgen.

On 01-05-14 23:08, Jan Bongaerts wrote:
> Real life meeting should still take preference over virtual meeting, 
> if you ask me.
> It's not all that hard to organise. Jurgen did it, I did it. They were 
> all successful.
> Just get to somewhere easily accessible by public transport.
> Brussels is the best.
> Antwerp or Ghent might be a good option.
>
>
>
> On 1 May 2014 22:51, Merlijn Sebrechts <merlijn.sebrechts op gmail.com 
> <mailto:merlijn.sebrechts op gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     aa) I can help with the website. I now a tiny bit of Drupal. If
>     somebody can give me the right credentials, I could take a look at
>     it next week. Mike Morraye knows more about the website, I think.
>     cc) same as aa)
>     ee) I think Google Hangouts is the best free option. If somebody
>     has a sip server, we could also use a sip client like jitsi.org
>     <http://jitsi.org>, which has excellent Ubuntu support.
>
>
>
>     Thanks for doing this wake-up call, kawabill!
>
>
>
>
>     2014-05-01 21:40 GMT+02:00 kawabill <kawabill op telenet.be
>     <mailto:kawabill op telenet.be>>:
>
>         Hey I'm not alone on the island....! :)
>
>         Tom, you're right I think and I agree. It is not somebody we
>         need, it is us. Also Juergen's proposal for having
>         Ubuntu-be.org and setting clear expectations I agree with,
>         this way we can prevent disappointment from and by others.
>         Carrying Ubuntu-be to the funeral I would think is just a bit
>         too early. From the reactions, at least 5-10 people are
>         actively involved and able to help.
>
>         Using IRC is maybe just a little too much written words and
>         I've got no clue how to get it to work reliably, I think we
>         need to get together or at least get visual. For getting
>         together there is the hacker space, the facilities in
>         Houthalen an hack - even an old school room in Bree. Is there
>         an open source alternative to Skype, allowing for a virtual
>         meeting maybe (I saw Apache's Open Meeting)? Or what if we
>         organise a chat/video conference from the 'local' events;
>         Houthalen in Limburg, Hackerspace, Brugge - can we organize it
>         maybe in such a way that it's all in sync; ie. every last
>         Wednesday of the month (convenient for LImburg, as this is the
>         gathering date already)?
>
>
>         1) Do you want to help set up a booth at fosdem 2015? YES, if
>         we can plan ahead I would think we can get the right and
>         motivated people involved including this chap
>         2) Do you still use the website? If so, how? YES, but let's
>         indeed make it such that people see activity - starting with
>         filling the agenda showing the local activities for example
>         3) What information would you want to see on the new website?
>         Haven't really given it a thought, but one thing for sure I
>         would like to see and that is UP TO DATE information
>
>         Let's keep the ideas coming, I think getting around the bank
>         account quickly is indeed opening a new one, and make it one
>         that we can access and at least have some kind of redundancy.
>         This as not to get stuck again.
>
>         I have to read and negotiate contracts all day, it would
>         really be good if we could talk to each other, preferably face
>         to face. This way we iterate in seconds rather than weeks.
>
>         Finally; let's get the link into Canonical established and
>         strengthened. I work for a large company and quite a large
>         bunch is starting to use Ubuntu also on the desktop. Ubuntu
>         Phone is a great idea and has huge potential, especially for
>         cost savings. I checked how I could get our purchasing in
>         contact easily, but believe me, Canonical is not going to sell
>         the idea if they stick to how they have approached this up to
>         now. I would think, certainly in Europe, they have a  wide
>         enough network of enthusiasts and could easily bundle the
>         network to get aggressive into offering savings to large and
>         medium size companies. As far as I'm concerned I use the
>         software that they have ubuntu-ed, it is this creation that
>         binds us - the reason why I spend my time locally to help
>         people is for ubuntu, and also as a kind of payback to
>         Canonical because they have created a magnificent piece of
>         software. Not only them, but they are for me one of the main
>         forces behind humanizing Linux! Credit to Mark Shuttleworth
>         for all that. Taking Ubuntu-be to the graveyard doesn't seem
>         the best way to help and show a kind of gratitude.
>
>         Too many words written already, and hail to he/she who came to
>         this point. How to go forward? Let's use 8D methodology and
>         get this going.
>         1) Plan - revive Ubuntu-be and prevent it from going quiet again
>         2) The core-team members proposed, let me know who disagrees
>         or cannot pick up;
>             a) kawabill
>             b) nero
>             c) Frank Neirynck
>             d) Tom Verlinden
>             e) Jan Bongaerts
>             f) Merlijn Sebrechts
>             g) Alain Daudrez
>         3) The problem; Ubuntu-be is dying
>         4) Temporary fix;
>             aa) website is not upto date (whom can take action and when?)
>             bb) bank account needs to be corrected (to open a new one
>         I can pick up the action and can have it done within two
>         weeks, with regards to the old one whom can get the
>         responsible person to help organize it such that we have
>         multiple Ubuntu-ers to get access and when?)
>             cc) support point map - remove ghost accounts and update
>         or allow for updated information (whom can take action and when?)
>             dd) Limburg event box - Wouter, please drop me an e-mail
>         where I can come and pick it up and get it into my storage garage)
>             ee) Setup a web-meeting last Wednesday of May (May 28th),
>         we can use Skype, Google hangout or maybe someone can help
>         build Open Meeting for Ubuntu (I don't mind planning and
>         coordinating, whom can help setup the technical side of it
>         all, Nero???)
>
>         Let's get this going before we start root-cause analysis, and
>         when need please team up where you can. Myself I'm not really
>         good at using Drupal, I've build my own in HTML, but I sure
>         could help cleaning up and updating.
>
>         Your comments please?
>
>         Bill
>
>
>
>         On 01-05-14 12:39, tom verlinden wrote:
>>
>>         Thanks for your info on this. I've always thought that this
>>         certain "somebody" should comprise out of more than one
>>         person. One person can't take this on his or her shoulders.
>>         There's too much, from what i'm reading, for one person to do
>>         and be succesfull about it. There should be a team of
>>         somebodies, all doing somewhat the same, but in different
>>         locations. (Does that make sense?) Is there a need for a
>>         central organ? To me that makes it too complicated already,
>>         and might create expectations, that cannot be fullfilled.
>>         Anyway, there's need, i guess to promote ubuntu, as Bill
>>         said. Now we have to figure out how to do this in a fun way,
>>         i guess.
>>
>>         Op 1 mei 2014 12:27 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn"
>>         <jurgen.gaeremyn op pandora.be <mailto:jurgen.gaeremyn op pandora.be>>:
>>
>>             Tom,
>>
>>             the strongest periods of Ubuntu-be were when one single
>>             person actually kept his shoulders under the project. In
>>             the past we had a few of these people. Thing is:
>>             ubuntu-be.org <http://ubuntu-be.org> should set clear
>>             expectations: what (not) to expect: a spokesman, the
>>             official stance of Ubuntu on whatever Belgian activity,
>>             guaranteed support, etc...
>>
>>             If someone stands up and is prepared to take leadership,
>>             you will quickly have a core team of somewhere between 5
>>             and 10 or even more if you do a great job. If you're
>>             willing to take up this commitment, you'll be doing
>>             Ubuntu-be a big favour. Problem is, apparently this
>>             mythical figure called "somebody" we're all talking about
>>             and who'll do all the practical stuff like maintain the
>>             website, organise event booths, create content, etc...
>>             isn't on this list anymore. Not sure if he ever was.
>>
>>             Please, do give it a chance. First things first -
>>             canonical approval is not a problem if you can prove
>>             you're active. I'm assuming someone here will be able to
>>             tell you more details on this.
>>
>>             Grtz,
>>             Jurgen.
>>
>>             On 01-05-14 12:11, tom verlinden wrote:
>>>
>>>             I don't know about organizing a funeral just yet. Maybe
>>>             ubuntu.be <http://ubuntu.be> could be a commonplace for
>>>             those using and or discovering ubuntu but more in a fun
>>>             sort of way. Don't know if i'm saying this right, but i
>>>             think you get the picture. There doesn't need to be a
>>>             central person or spokesman imho. Makes it far too
>>>             official. The first goal should be, in my humble
>>>             opinion, to get people to discover ubuntu. Maybe by
>>>             promoting this list we could get more people discovering
>>>             the os. As far as i'm concerned, i use ubuntu, talk
>>>             about it and show it to whoever i think might be
>>>             interrested, give support where i can and drop leaflets
>>>             in our library. (They're also on ubuntu. Woot!!)
>>>             I think that if we do our part any wich way we can, on
>>>             our little "islands", and use the net, list as our
>>>             "glue", who knows what can happen in the future? Is
>>>             there still a connection with canonical? How does that
>>>             work? Hell, typing this gets me all fired up to give
>>>             this a chance. What do you guys think? Give it some kind
>>>             of try, or just leave, and do something on our own? (I
>>>             think we could achieve more together, but i'd like to
>>>             hear your opinion). My 2 cents....
>>>
>>>             Op 30 apr. 2014 07:30 schreef "kawabill"
>>>             <kawabill op telenet.be <mailto:kawabill op telenet.be>>:
>>>
>>>                 What triggered me was a mail I got from someone in
>>>                 the community, stating that he rather spent his time
>>>                 otherwise, declining an invitation I had sent him.
>>>                 No problem of course, but it took me to the
>>>                 following page;
>>>                 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings
>>>
>>>                 No activities are visible for me the visitor, going
>>>                 over the pages it seems that the latest info dates
>>>                 from 2012. I know activities are still going on,
>>>                 organized by enthusiasts on a very local scale, but
>>>                 for me it is not visible whether all of this is
>>>                 coordinated.
>>>
>>>                 I find it a pity, that in the period where MS end of
>>>                 lifes XP I don't see any coordinated activity to get
>>>                 people over into the Ubuntu/Mint/Linux camp.
>>>
>>>                 Can anyone please comment and give feedback or let
>>>                 me know I'm wrong and I seem to live life on a
>>>                 desolate space outside of the Ubuntu community?
>>>
>>>                 Have a nice day.
>>>                 Bill
>>>
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