[Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu life in Belgium

Fri May 2 10:24:59 UTC 2014

Bill's proposal looks mighty fine to me. I'll get my thinking cap on and
see what i  an come up with. Anybody having a problem with bill's proposal?
Op 2 mei 2014 06:36 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn" <jurgen.gaeremyn op pandora.be>:

>  I think any of the hackerspaces will be willing to accomodate... people
> living near train stations on our group might too...
>
> Possibly I can't be available myself (wife is pregnant and due for June
> 4th) but I'm pretty sure Hackerspace Brussels (hackerspace.be) would be
> glad to offer you a chair in the space or the garden...
>
> Grtz,
> Jurgen.
>
> On 01-05-14 23:08, Jan Bongaerts wrote:
>
>   Real life meeting should still take preference over virtual meeting, if
> you ask me.
>  It's not all that hard to organise. Jurgen did it, I did it. They were
> all successful.
>  Just get to somewhere easily accessible by public transport.
>  Brussels is the best.
> Antwerp or Ghent might be a good option.
>
>
>
> On 1 May 2014 22:51, Merlijn Sebrechts <merlijn.sebrechts op gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>   aa) I can help with the website. I now a tiny bit of Drupal. If
>> somebody can give me the right credentials, I could take a look at it next
>> week. Mike Morraye knows more about the website, I think.
>>  cc) same as aa)
>>  ee) I think Google Hangouts is the best free option. If somebody has a
>> sip server, we could also use a sip client like jitsi.org, which has
>> excellent Ubuntu support.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Thanks for doing this wake-up call, kawabill!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  2014-05-01 21:40 GMT+02:00 kawabill <kawabill op telenet.be>:
>>
>>  Hey I'm not alone on the island....! :)
>>>
>>> Tom, you're right I think and I agree. It is not somebody we need, it is
>>> us. Also Juergen's proposal for having Ubuntu-be.org and setting clear
>>> expectations I agree with, this way we can prevent disappointment from and
>>> by others. Carrying Ubuntu-be to the funeral I would think is just a bit
>>> too early. From the reactions, at least 5-10 people are actively involved
>>> and able to help.
>>>
>>> Using IRC is maybe just a little too much written words and I've got no
>>> clue how to get it to work reliably, I think we need to get together or at
>>> least get visual. For getting together there is the hacker space, the
>>> facilities in Houthalen an hack - even an old school room in Bree. Is there
>>> an open source alternative to Skype, allowing for a virtual meeting maybe
>>> (I saw Apache's Open Meeting)? Or what if we organise a chat/video
>>> conference from the 'local' events; Houthalen in Limburg, Hackerspace,
>>> Brugge - can we organize it maybe in such a way that it's all in sync; ie.
>>> every last Wednesday of the month (convenient for LImburg, as this is the
>>> gathering date already)?
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) Do you want to help set up a booth at fosdem 2015? YES, if we can
>>> plan ahead I would think we can get the right and motivated people involved
>>> including this chap
>>>  2) Do you still use the website? If so, how? YES, but let's indeed
>>> make it such that people see activity - starting with filling the agenda
>>> showing the local activities for example
>>>  3) What information would you want to see on the new website? Haven't
>>> really given it a thought, but one thing for sure I would like to see and
>>> that is UP TO DATE information
>>>
>>> Let's keep the ideas coming, I think getting around the bank account
>>> quickly is indeed opening a new one, and make it one that we can access and
>>> at least have some kind of redundancy. This as not to get stuck again.
>>>
>>> I have to read and negotiate contracts all day, it would really be good
>>> if we could talk to each other, preferably face to face. This way we
>>> iterate in seconds rather than weeks.
>>>
>>> Finally; let's get the link into Canonical established and strengthened.
>>> I work for a large company and quite a large bunch is starting to use
>>> Ubuntu also on the desktop. Ubuntu Phone is a great idea and has huge
>>> potential, especially for cost savings. I checked how I could get our
>>> purchasing in contact easily, but believe me, Canonical is not going to
>>> sell the idea if they stick to how they have approached this up to now. I
>>> would think, certainly in Europe, they have a  wide enough network of
>>> enthusiasts and could easily bundle the network to get aggressive into
>>> offering savings to large and medium size companies. As far as I'm
>>> concerned I use the software that they have ubuntu-ed, it is this creation
>>> that binds us - the reason why I spend my time locally to help people is
>>> for ubuntu, and also as a kind of payback to Canonical because they have
>>> created a magnificent piece of software. Not only them, but they are for me
>>> one of the main forces behind humanizing Linux! Credit to Mark Shuttleworth
>>> for all that. Taking Ubuntu-be to the graveyard doesn't seem the best way
>>> to help and show a kind of gratitude.
>>>
>>> Too many words written already, and hail to he/she who came to this
>>> point. How to go forward? Let's use 8D methodology and get this going.
>>> 1) Plan - revive Ubuntu-be and prevent it from going quiet again
>>> 2) The core-team members proposed, let me know who disagrees or cannot
>>> pick up;
>>>     a) kawabill
>>>     b) nero
>>>     c) Frank Neirynck
>>>     d) Tom Verlinden
>>>     e) Jan Bongaerts
>>>     f) Merlijn Sebrechts
>>>     g) Alain Daudrez
>>> 3) The problem; Ubuntu-be is dying
>>> 4) Temporary fix;
>>>     aa) website is not upto date (whom can take action and when?)
>>>     bb) bank account needs to be corrected (to open a new one I can pick
>>> up the action and can have it done within two weeks, with regards to the
>>> old one whom can get the responsible person to help organize it such that
>>> we have multiple Ubuntu-ers to get access and when?)
>>>     cc) support point map - remove ghost accounts and update or allow
>>> for updated information (whom can take action and when?)
>>>     dd) Limburg event box - Wouter, please drop me an e-mail where I can
>>> come and pick it up and get it into my storage garage)
>>>     ee) Setup a web-meeting last Wednesday of May (May 28th), we can use
>>> Skype, Google hangout or maybe someone can help build Open Meeting for
>>> Ubuntu (I don't mind planning and coordinating, whom can help setup the
>>> technical side of it all, Nero???)
>>>
>>> Let's get this going before we start root-cause analysis, and when need
>>> please team up where you can. Myself I'm not really good at using Drupal,
>>> I've build my own in HTML, but I sure could help cleaning up and updating.
>>>
>>> Your comments please?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01-05-14 12:39, tom verlinden wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for your info on this. I've always thought that this certain
>>> "somebody" should comprise out of more than one person. One person can't
>>> take this on his or her shoulders. There's too much, from what i'm reading,
>>> for one person to do and be succesfull about it. There should be a team of
>>> somebodies, all doing somewhat the same, but in different locations. (Does
>>> that make sense?) Is there a need for a central organ? To me that makes it
>>> too complicated already, and might create expectations, that cannot be
>>> fullfilled. Anyway, there's need, i guess to promote ubuntu, as Bill said.
>>> Now we have to figure out how to do this in a fun way, i guess.
>>> Op 1 mei 2014 12:27 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn" <
>>> jurgen.gaeremyn op pandora.be>:
>>>
>>>>  Tom,
>>>>
>>>> the strongest periods of Ubuntu-be were when one single person actually
>>>> kept his shoulders under the project. In the past we had a few of these
>>>> people. Thing is: ubuntu-be.org should set clear expectations: what
>>>> (not) to expect: a spokesman, the official stance of Ubuntu on whatever
>>>> Belgian activity, guaranteed support, etc...
>>>>
>>>> If someone stands up and is prepared to take leadership, you will
>>>> quickly have a core team of somewhere between 5 and 10 or even more if you
>>>> do a great job. If you're willing to take up this commitment, you'll be
>>>> doing Ubuntu-be a big favour. Problem is, apparently this mythical figure
>>>> called "somebody" we're all talking about and who'll do all the practical
>>>> stuff like maintain the website, organise event booths, create content,
>>>> etc... isn't on this list anymore. Not sure if he ever was.
>>>>
>>>> Please, do give it a chance. First things first - canonical approval is
>>>> not a problem if you can prove you're active. I'm assuming someone here
>>>> will be able to tell you more details on this.
>>>>
>>>> Grtz,
>>>> Jurgen.
>>>>
>>>> On 01-05-14 12:11, tom verlinden wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't know about organizing a funeral just yet. Maybe ubuntu.becould be a commonplace for those using and or discovering ubuntu but more
>>>> in a fun sort of way. Don't know if i'm saying this right, but i think you
>>>> get the picture. There doesn't need to be a central person or spokesman
>>>> imho. Makes it far too official. The first goal should be, in my humble
>>>> opinion, to get people to discover ubuntu. Maybe by promoting this list we
>>>> could get more people discovering the os. As far as i'm concerned, i use
>>>> ubuntu, talk about it and show it to whoever i think might be interrested,
>>>> give support where i can and drop leaflets in our library. (They're also on
>>>> ubuntu. Woot!!)
>>>> I think that if we do our part any wich way we can, on our little
>>>> "islands", and use the net, list as our "glue", who knows what can happen
>>>> in the future? Is there still a connection with canonical? How does that
>>>> work? Hell, typing this gets me all fired up to give this a chance. What do
>>>> you guys think? Give it some kind of try, or just leave, and do something
>>>> on our own? (I think we could achieve more together, but i'd like to hear
>>>> your opinion). My 2 cents....
>>>> Op 30 apr. 2014 07:30 schreef "kawabill" <kawabill op telenet.be>:
>>>>
>>>>> What triggered me was a mail I got from someone in the community,
>>>>> stating that he rather spent his time otherwise, declining an invitation I
>>>>> had sent him. No problem of course, but it took me to the following page;
>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings
>>>>>
>>>>> No activities are visible for me the visitor, going over the pages it
>>>>> seems that the latest info dates from 2012. I know activities are still
>>>>> going on, organized by enthusiasts on a very local scale, but for me it is
>>>>> not visible whether all of this is coordinated.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find it a pity, that in the period where MS end of lifes XP I don't
>>>>> see any coordinated activity to get people over into the Ubuntu/Mint/Linux
>>>>> camp.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone please comment and give feedback or let me know I'm wrong
>>>>> and I seem to live life on a desolate space outside of the Ubuntu community?
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a nice day.
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
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