Ok Pol
Dan ga ik naar de fr versie over . Daar eens navragen.
Thxs
Luc Rulkin
Bergstraat 6
B 9630 St Marie Latem (Zwalm)
There is nothing worse than being talked about, that is not being talked about.
(O Wilde)
On Saturday, 3 May 2014, 12:55, Alain Baudrez <a.baudrez op gmail.com> wrote:
I just had a look at the ubuntu-be page on Google+ - https://plus.google.com/112197959490301022128/about?hl=nl - it is idle. Even if we don't have the possibility to modify our website in the near future, we could at least use the events options of our Google+ page to announce what we plan to do.
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>Same goes for our FB page - https://www.facebook.com/groups/87950312093/ . There is a bit more 'life' in the FB group, but nothing spectacular.
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>I noticed quite a lot op webpages like '10 things to do after installing ubuntu 14.04'. We could at least translate (some of) those pages into Dutch and French and post them on those two social media, It would be a start.
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>The main problem I see is which one we will be using.
>With the 'rumours' of Google eventually downsizing or shutting down their G+ social network, and on the other side some users not trusting Facebook, which way must we go?
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>2014-05-03 11:29 GMT+02:00 Duray Pol <duraypol op gmail.com>:
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>Le 02/05/2014 14:26, Luc Rulkin a écrit :
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>>Goede middag .
>>>
>>>
>>>Een klein vraagje , van iemand die een paar jaar terug al een vraag stelde op t forum , zonder antwoord ..
>>>zeggen jullie nu : "wij zijn op stervens na dood ... ga naar Ubuntu.nl of Ubuntu.fr ?".
>>> Is er een franstalige kant van ubuntu.be ? Anders ga ik daar eens vragen wat ik kan doen.
>>>(oude acer met Vista Profess. zou ik willen proberen op Ubuntu)(ik ben geen It'er en heb wat aanwijzingen nodig)
>>>
>>>
>>>C'est tout !!
>>>
>>>
>>>MIVG Luc R
>>>
>>>Luc Rulkin
>>>Bergstraat 6
>>>B 9630 St Marie Latem (Zwalm)
>>>
>>>There is nothing worse than being talked about, that is not
being talked about.
>>>(O Wilde)
>>>
>>>On Friday, 2 May 2014, 12:25, tom verlinden <tom.verlinden op gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Bill's proposal looks mighty fine to me. I'll get my thinking cap on and see what i an come up with. Anybody having a problem with bill's proposal?
>>>>Op 2 mei 2014 06:36 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn" <jurgen.gaeremyn op pandora.be>:
>>>>
>>>>I think any of the hackerspaces will be willing to accomodate... people living near train stations on our group might too...
>>>>>
>>>>>Possibly I can't be available myself
(wife is pregnant and due for June 4th)
but I'm pretty sure Hackerspace Brussels
(hackerspace.be) would be glad to offer you a chair in the space or the garden...
>>>>>
>>>>>Grtz,
>>>>>Jurgen.
>>>>>
>>>>>On 01-05-14 23:08, Jan Bongaerts wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Real life meeting should still take preference over virtual meeting, if you ask me.
>>>>>>
It's not all that hard to organise. Jurgen did it, I did it. They were all successful.
>>>>>>
Just get to somewhere easily accessible by public transport.
>>>>>>
Brussels is the best.
>>>>>>Antwerp or Ghent might be a good
option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 1 May 2014 22:51, Merlijn Sebrechts <merlijn.sebrechts op gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>aa) I can help with the website. I now a tiny bit of Drupal. If somebody can give me the right credentials, I could take a look at it next week. Mike Morraye knows more about the website, I think.
>>>>>>>
cc) same as aa)
>>>>>>>
ee) I think Google Hangouts is the best free option. If somebody has a sip server, we could also use a sip client like jitsi.org, which has excellent Ubuntu support.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for doing this wake-up call, kawabill!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>2014-05-01 21:40 GMT+02:00 kawabill <kawabill op telenet.be>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hey I'm not alone on the island....! :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Tom, you're right I
think and I agree.
It is not somebody
we need, it is us.
Also Juergen's
proposal for having
Ubuntu-be.org and
setting clear
expectations I agree
with, this way we
can prevent
disappointment from
and by others.
Carrying Ubuntu-be
to the funeral I
would think is just
a bit too early.
From the reactions,
at least 5-10 people
are actively
involved and able to
help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Using IRC is maybe
just a little too
much written words
and I've got no clue
how to get it to
work reliably, I
think we need to get
together or at least
get visual. For
getting together
there is the hacker
space, the
facilities in
Houthalen an hack -
even an old school
room in Bree. Is
there an open source
alternative to
Skype, allowing for
a virtual meeting
maybe (I saw
Apache's Open
Meeting)? Or what if
we organise a
chat/video
conference from the
'local' events;
Houthalen in
Limburg,
Hackerspace, Brugge
- can we organize it
maybe in such a way
that it's all in
sync; ie. every last
Wednesday of the
month (convenient
for LImburg, as this
is the gathering
date already)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>1) Do you want to help set up a booth at fosdem 2015? YES, if we can plan ahead I would think we can get the right and motivated people involved including this chap
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2) Do you still use the website? If so, how? YES, but let's indeed make it such that people see activity - starting with filling the agenda showing the local activities for example
>>>>>>>>
3) What information would you want to see on the new website? Haven't really given it a thought, but one thing for sure I would like to see and that is UP TO DATE information
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Let's keep the ideas
coming, I think
getting around the
bank account quickly
is indeed opening a
new one, and make it
one that we can access
and at least have some
kind of redundancy.
This as not to get
stuck again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have to read and
negotiate contracts
all day, it would
really be good if we
could talk to each
other, preferably face
to face. This way we
iterate in seconds
rather than weeks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Finally; let's get the
link into Canonical
established and
strengthened. I work
for a large company
and quite a large
bunch is starting to
use Ubuntu also on the
desktop. Ubuntu Phone
is a great idea and
has huge potential,
especially for cost
savings. I checked how
I could get our
purchasing in contact
easily, but believe
me, Canonical is not
going to sell the idea
if they stick to how
they have approached
this up to now. I
would think, certainly
in Europe, they have
a wide enough network
of enthusiasts and
could easily bundle
the network to get
aggressive into
offering savings to
large and medium size
companies. As far as
I'm concerned I use
the software that they
have ubuntu-ed, it is
this creation that
binds us - the reason
why I spend my time
locally to help people
is for ubuntu, and
also as a kind of
payback to Canonical
because they have
created a magnificent
piece of software. Not
only them, but they
are for me one of the
main forces behind
humanizing Linux!
Credit to Mark
Shuttleworth for all
that. Taking Ubuntu-be
to the graveyard
doesn't seem the best
way to help and show a
kind of gratitude.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Too many words written
already, and hail to
he/she who came to
this point. How to go
forward? Let's use 8D
methodology and get
this going.
>>>>>>>>1) Plan - revive
Ubuntu-be and prevent
it from going quiet
again
>>>>>>>>2) The core-team
members proposed, let
me know who disagrees
or cannot pick up;
>>>>>>>> a) kawabill
>>>>>>>> b) nero
>>>>>>>> c) Frank Neirynck
>>>>>>>> d) Tom Verlinden
>>>>>>>> e) Jan Bongaerts
>>>>>>>> f) Merlijn
Sebrechts
>>>>>>>> g) Alain Daudrez
>>>>>>>>3) The problem;
Ubuntu-be is dying
>>>>>>>>4) Temporary fix;
>>>>>>>> aa) website is not
upto date (whom can
take action and when?)
>>>>>>>> bb) bank account
needs to be corrected
(to open a new one I
can pick up the action
and can have it done
within two weeks, with
regards to the old one
whom can get the
responsible person to
help organize it such
that we have multiple
Ubuntu-ers to get
access and when?)
>>>>>>>> cc) support point
map - remove ghost
accounts and update or
allow for updated
information (whom can
take action and when?)
>>>>>>>> dd) Limburg event
box - Wouter, please
drop me an e-mail
where I can come and
pick it up and get it
into my storage
garage)
>>>>>>>> ee) Setup a
web-meeting last
Wednesday of May (May
28th), we can use
Skype, Google hangout
or maybe someone can
help build Open
Meeting for Ubuntu (I
don't mind planning
and coordinating, whom
can help setup the
technical side of it
all, Nero???)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Let's get this going
before we start
root-cause analysis,
and when need please
team up where you can.
Myself I'm not really
good at using Drupal,
I've build my own in
HTML, but I sure could
help cleaning up and
updating.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Your comments please?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Bill
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 01-05-14 12:39, tom verlinden wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks for your info on this. I've always thought that this certain "somebody" should comprise out of more than one person. One person can't take this on his or her shoulders. There's too much, from what i'm reading, for one person to do and be succesfull about it. There should be a team of somebodies, all doing somewhat the same, but in different locations. (Does that make sense?) Is there a need for a central organ? To me that makes it too complicated already, and might create expectations, that cannot be fullfilled. Anyway, there's need, i guess to promote ubuntu, as Bill said. Now we have to figure out how to do this in a fun way, i guess.
>>>>>>>>>Op 1 mei 2014 12:27 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn" <jurgen.gaeremyn op pandora.be>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Tom,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the strongest
periods of
Ubuntu-be were
when one
single person
actually kept
his shoulders
under the
project. In
the past we
had a few of
these people.
Thing is: ubuntu-be.org should set clear expectations: what (not) to expect: a spokesman, the official stance of Ubuntu on whatever Belgian activity, guaranteed support, etc...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>If someone
stands up and
is prepared to
take
leadership,
you will
quickly have a
core team of
somewhere
between 5 and
10 or even
more if you do
a great job.
If you're
willing to
take up this
commitment,
you'll be
doing
Ubuntu-be a
big favour.
Problem is,
apparently
this mythical
figure called
"somebody"
we're all
talking about
and who'll do
all the
practical
stuff like
maintain the
website,
organise event
booths, create
content,
etc... isn't
on this list
anymore. Not
sure if he
ever was.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Please, do
give it a
chance. First
things first -
canonical
approval is
not a problem
if you can
prove you're
active. I'm
assuming
someone here
will be able
to tell you
more details
on this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Grtz,
>>>>>>>>>>Jurgen.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On 01-05-14
12:11, tom
verlinden
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I don't know about organizing a funeral just yet. Maybe ubuntu.be could be a commonplace for those using and or discovering ubuntu but more in a fun sort of way. Don't know if i'm saying this right, but i think you get the picture. There doesn't need to be a central person or spokesman imho. Makes it far too official. The first goal should be, in my humble opinion, to get people to discover ubuntu. Maybe by promoting this list we could get more people discovering the os. As far as i'm concerned, i use ubuntu, talk about it and show it to whoever i think might be interrested, give support where i can and drop leaflets in our library. (They're also on ubuntu. Woot!!)
>>>>>>>>>>>I think that
if we do our
part any wich
way we can, on
our little
"islands", and
use the net,
list as our
"glue", who
knows what can
happen in the
future? Is
there still a
connection
with
canonical? How
does that
work? Hell,
typing this
gets me all
fired up to
give this a
chance. What
do you guys
think? Give it
some kind of
try, or just
leave, and do
something on
our own? (I
think we could
achieve more
together, but
i'd like to
hear your
opinion). My 2
cents....
>>>>>>>>>>>Op 30 apr. 2014 07:30 schreef "kawabill" <kawabill op telenet.be>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>What triggered me was a mail I got from someone in the community, stating that he rather spent his time otherwise, declining an invitation I had sent him. No problem of course, but it took me to the following page;
>>>>>>>>>>>>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>No activities
are visible
for me the
visitor, going
over the pages
it seems that
the latest
info dates
from 2012. I
know
activities are
still going
on, organized
by enthusiasts
on a very
local scale,
but for me it
is not visible
whether all of
this is
coordinated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I find it a
pity, that in
the period
where MS end
of lifes XP I
don't see any
coordinated
activity to
get people
over into the
Ubuntu/Mint/Linux
camp.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Can anyone
please comment
and give
feedback or
let me know
I'm wrong and
I seem to live
life on a
desolate space
outside of the
Ubuntu
community?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Have a nice
day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Bill
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Er is geen franstaalig kant van ubuntu.be Daarom ga ik on ubuntu.fr. Ik vind daar alles wat ik hebt nodig. Voor een franstalige ubunterosubuntu.fr is goed gemaakt en zeer aktiev. De forum kan u veel solutie geven en de documentatie is ook goed gemaakt.
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