[Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu life in Belgium
Duray Pol
duraypol at gmail.com
Sat May 3 23:34:03 UTC 2014
Je suis francophone et j'utilise Ubuntu depuis 6 ans et ne le regrette
pas du tout.
Le 03/05/2014 15:21, Luc Rulkin a écrit :
> Ok Pol
>
> Dan ga ik naar de fr versie over . Daar eens navragen.
>
> Thxs
> Luc Rulkin
> Bergstraat 6
> B 9630 St Marie Latem (Zwalm)
>
> There is nothing worse than being talked about, that is not being
> talked about.
> (O Wilde)
> On Saturday, 3 May 2014, 12:55, Alain Baudrez <a.baudrez at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I just had a look at the ubuntu-be page on Google+ -
> https://plus.google.com/112197959490301022128/about?hl=nl - it is
> idle. Even if we don't have the possibility to modify our website
> in the near future, we could at least use the events options of
> our Google+ page to announce what we plan to do.
>
> Same goes for our FB page -
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/87950312093/ . There is a bit more
> 'life' in the FB group, but nothing spectacular.
>
> I noticed quite a lot op webpages like '10 things to do after
> installing ubuntu 14.04'. We could at least translate (some of)
> those pages into Dutch and French and post them on those two
> social media, It would be a start.
>
> The main problem I see is which one we will be using.
> With the 'rumours' of Google eventually downsizing or shutting
> down their G+ social network, and on the other side some users not
> trusting Facebook, which way must we go?
>
>
> 2014-05-03 11:29 GMT+02:00 Duray Pol <duraypol at gmail.com
> <mailto:duraypol at gmail.com>>:
>
> Le 02/05/2014 14:26, Luc Rulkin a écrit :
>> Goede middag .
>>
>> Een klein vraagje , van iemand die een paar jaar terug al een
>> vraag stelde op t forum , zonder antwoord ..
>> zeggen jullie nu : "wij zijn op stervens na dood ... ga naar
>> Ubuntu.nl of Ubuntu.fr ?".
>> Is er een franstalige kant van ubuntu.be <http://ubuntu.be/>
>> ? Anders ga ik daar eens vragen wat ik kan doen.
>> (oude acer met Vista Profess. zou ik willen proberen op
>> Ubuntu)(ik ben geen It'er en heb wat aanwijzingen nodig)
>>
>> C'est tout !!
>>
>> MIVG Luc R
>> Luc Rulkin
>> Bergstraat 6
>> B 9630 St Marie Latem (Zwalm)
>>
>> There is nothing worse than being talked about, that is not
>> being talked about.
>> (O Wilde)
>> On Friday, 2 May 2014, 12:25, tom verlinden
>> <tom.verlinden at gmail.com> <mailto:tom.verlinden at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Bill's proposal looks mighty fine to me. I'll get my
>> thinking cap on and see what i an come up with. Anybody
>> having a problem with bill's proposal?
>> Op 2 mei 2014 06:36 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn"
>> <jurgen.gaeremyn at pandora.be
>> <mailto:jurgen.gaeremyn at pandora.be>>:
>>
>> I think any of the hackerspaces will be willing to
>> accomodate... people living near train stations on
>> our group might too...
>>
>> Possibly I can't be available myself (wife is
>> pregnant and due for June 4th) but I'm pretty sure
>> Hackerspace Brussels (hackerspace.be
>> <http://hackerspace.be/>) would be glad to offer you
>> a chair in the space or the garden...
>>
>> Grtz,
>> Jurgen.
>>
>> On 01-05-14 23:08, Jan Bongaerts wrote:
>>> Real life meeting should still take preference over
>>> virtual meeting, if you ask me.
>>> It's not all that hard to organise. Jurgen did it, I
>>> did it. They were all successful.
>>> Just get to somewhere easily accessible by public
>>> transport.
>>> Brussels is the best.
>>> Antwerp or Ghent might be a good option.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 May 2014 22:51, Merlijn Sebrechts
>>> <merlijn.sebrechts at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:merlijn.sebrechts at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> aa) I can help with the website. I now a tiny
>>> bit of Drupal. If somebody can give me the right
>>> credentials, I could take a look at it next
>>> week. Mike Morraye knows more about the website,
>>> I think.
>>> cc) same as aa)
>>> ee) I think Google Hangouts is the best free
>>> option. If somebody has a sip server, we could
>>> also use a sip client like jitsi.org
>>> <http://jitsi.org/>, which has excellent Ubuntu
>>> support.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for doing this wake-up call, kawabill!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-05-01 21:40 GMT+02:00 kawabill
>>> <kawabill at telenet.be <mailto:kawabill at telenet.be>>:
>>>
>>> Hey I'm not alone on the island....! :)
>>>
>>> Tom, you're right I think and I agree. It is
>>> not somebody we need, it is us. Also
>>> Juergen's proposal for having Ubuntu-be.org
>>> and setting clear expectations I agree with,
>>> this way we can prevent disappointment from
>>> and by others. Carrying Ubuntu-be to the
>>> funeral I would think is just a bit too
>>> early. From the reactions, at least 5-10
>>> people are actively involved and able to help.
>>>
>>> Using IRC is maybe just a little too much
>>> written words and I've got no clue how to
>>> get it to work reliably, I think we need to
>>> get together or at least get visual. For
>>> getting together there is the hacker space,
>>> the facilities in Houthalen an hack - even
>>> an old school room in Bree. Is there an open
>>> source alternative to Skype, allowing for a
>>> virtual meeting maybe (I saw Apache's Open
>>> Meeting)? Or what if we organise a
>>> chat/video conference from the 'local'
>>> events; Houthalen in Limburg, Hackerspace,
>>> Brugge - can we organize it maybe in such a
>>> way that it's all in sync; ie. every last
>>> Wednesday of the month (convenient for
>>> LImburg, as this is the gathering date already)?
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) Do you want to help set up a booth at
>>> fosdem 2015? YES, if we can plan ahead I
>>> would think we can get the right and
>>> motivated people involved including this chap
>>> 2) Do you still use the website? If so, how?
>>> YES, but let's indeed make it such that
>>> people see activity - starting with filling
>>> the agenda showing the local activities for
>>> example
>>> 3) What information would you want to see on
>>> the new website? Haven't really given it a
>>> thought, but one thing for sure I would like
>>> to see and that is UP TO DATE information
>>>
>>> Let's keep the ideas coming, I think getting
>>> around the bank account quickly is indeed
>>> opening a new one, and make it one that we
>>> can access and at least have some kind of
>>> redundancy. This as not to get stuck again.
>>>
>>> I have to read and negotiate contracts all
>>> day, it would really be good if we could
>>> talk to each other, preferably face to face.
>>> This way we iterate in seconds rather than
>>> weeks.
>>>
>>> Finally; let's get the link into Canonical
>>> established and strengthened. I work for a
>>> large company and quite a large bunch is
>>> starting to use Ubuntu also on the desktop.
>>> Ubuntu Phone is a great idea and has huge
>>> potential, especially for cost savings. I
>>> checked how I could get our purchasing in
>>> contact easily, but believe me, Canonical is
>>> not going to sell the idea if they stick to
>>> how they have approached this up to now. I
>>> would think, certainly in Europe, they have
>>> a wide enough network of enthusiasts and
>>> could easily bundle the network to get
>>> aggressive into offering savings to large
>>> and medium size companies. As far as I'm
>>> concerned I use the software that they have
>>> ubuntu-ed, it is this creation that binds us
>>> - the reason why I spend my time locally to
>>> help people is for ubuntu, and also as a
>>> kind of payback to Canonical because they
>>> have created a magnificent piece of
>>> software. Not only them, but they are for me
>>> one of the main forces behind humanizing
>>> Linux! Credit to Mark Shuttleworth for all
>>> that. Taking Ubuntu-be to the graveyard
>>> doesn't seem the best way to help and show a
>>> kind of gratitude.
>>>
>>> Too many words written already, and hail to
>>> he/she who came to this point. How to go
>>> forward? Let's use 8D methodology and get
>>> this going.
>>> 1) Plan - revive Ubuntu-be and prevent it
>>> from going quiet again
>>> 2) The core-team members proposed, let me
>>> know who disagrees or cannot pick up;
>>> a) kawabill
>>> b) nero
>>> c) Frank Neirynck
>>> d) Tom Verlinden
>>> e) Jan Bongaerts
>>> f) Merlijn Sebrechts
>>> g) Alain Daudrez
>>> 3) The problem; Ubuntu-be is dying
>>> 4) Temporary fix;
>>> aa) website is not upto date (whom can
>>> take action and when?)
>>> bb) bank account needs to be corrected
>>> (to open a new one I can pick up the action
>>> and can have it done within two weeks, with
>>> regards to the old one whom can get the
>>> responsible person to help organize it such
>>> that we have multiple Ubuntu-ers to get
>>> access and when?)
>>> cc) support point map - remove ghost
>>> accounts and update or allow for updated
>>> information (whom can take action and when?)
>>> dd) Limburg event box - Wouter, please
>>> drop me an e-mail where I can come and pick
>>> it up and get it into my storage garage)
>>> ee) Setup a web-meeting last Wednesday
>>> of May (May 28th), we can use Skype, Google
>>> hangout or maybe someone can help build Open
>>> Meeting for Ubuntu (I don't mind planning
>>> and coordinating, whom can help setup the
>>> technical side of it all, Nero???)
>>>
>>> Let's get this going before we start
>>> root-cause analysis, and when need please
>>> team up where you can. Myself I'm not really
>>> good at using Drupal, I've build my own in
>>> HTML, but I sure could help cleaning up and
>>> updating.
>>>
>>> Your comments please?
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01-05-14 12:39, tom verlinden wrote:
>>>> Thanks for your info on this. I've always
>>>> thought that this certain "somebody" should
>>>> comprise out of more than one person. One
>>>> person can't take this on his or her
>>>> shoulders. There's too much, from what i'm
>>>> reading, for one person to do and be
>>>> succesfull about it. There should be a team
>>>> of somebodies, all doing somewhat the same,
>>>> but in different locations. (Does that make
>>>> sense?) Is there a need for a central
>>>> organ? To me that makes it too complicated
>>>> already, and might create expectations,
>>>> that cannot be fullfilled. Anyway, there's
>>>> need, i guess to promote ubuntu, as Bill
>>>> said. Now we have to figure out how to do
>>>> this in a fun way, i guess.
>>>> Op 1 mei 2014 12:27 schreef "Jurgen
>>>> Gaeremyn" <jurgen.gaeremyn at pandora.be
>>>> <mailto:jurgen.gaeremyn at pandora.be>>:
>>>>
>>>> Tom,
>>>>
>>>> the strongest periods of Ubuntu-be were
>>>> when one single person actually kept
>>>> his shoulders under the project. In the
>>>> past we had a few of these people.
>>>> Thing is: ubuntu-be.org
>>>> <http://ubuntu-be.org/> should set
>>>> clear expectations: what (not) to
>>>> expect: a spokesman, the official
>>>> stance of Ubuntu on whatever Belgian
>>>> activity, guaranteed support, etc...
>>>>
>>>> If someone stands up and is prepared to
>>>> take leadership, you will quickly have
>>>> a core team of somewhere between 5 and
>>>> 10 or even more if you do a great job.
>>>> If you're willing to take up this
>>>> commitment, you'll be doing Ubuntu-be a
>>>> big favour. Problem is, apparently this
>>>> mythical figure called "somebody" we're
>>>> all talking about and who'll do all the
>>>> practical stuff like maintain the
>>>> website, organise event booths, create
>>>> content, etc... isn't on this list
>>>> anymore. Not sure if he ever was.
>>>>
>>>> Please, do give it a chance. First
>>>> things first - canonical approval is
>>>> not a problem if you can prove you're
>>>> active. I'm assuming someone here will
>>>> be able to tell you more details on this.
>>>>
>>>> Grtz,
>>>> Jurgen.
>>>>
>>>> On 01-05-14 12:11, tom verlinden wrote:
>>>>> I don't know about organizing a
>>>>> funeral just yet. Maybe ubuntu.be
>>>>> <http://ubuntu.be/> could be a
>>>>> commonplace for those using and or
>>>>> discovering ubuntu but more in a fun
>>>>> sort of way. Don't know if i'm saying
>>>>> this right, but i think you get the
>>>>> picture. There doesn't need to be a
>>>>> central person or spokesman imho.
>>>>> Makes it far too official. The first
>>>>> goal should be, in my humble opinion,
>>>>> to get people to discover ubuntu.
>>>>> Maybe by promoting this list we could
>>>>> get more people discovering the os. As
>>>>> far as i'm concerned, i use ubuntu,
>>>>> talk about it and show it to whoever i
>>>>> think might be interrested, give
>>>>> support where i can and drop leaflets
>>>>> in our library. (They're also on
>>>>> ubuntu. Woot!!)
>>>>> I think that if we do our part any
>>>>> wich way we can, on our little
>>>>> "islands", and use the net, list as
>>>>> our "glue", who knows what can happen
>>>>> in the future? Is there still a
>>>>> connection with canonical? How does
>>>>> that work? Hell, typing this gets me
>>>>> all fired up to give this a chance.
>>>>> What do you guys think? Give it some
>>>>> kind of try, or just leave, and do
>>>>> something on our own? (I think we
>>>>> could achieve more together, but i'd
>>>>> like to hear your opinion). My 2 cents....
>>>>> Op 30 apr. 2014 07:30 schreef
>>>>> "kawabill" <kawabill at telenet.be
>>>>> <mailto:kawabill at telenet.be>>:
>>>>>
>>>>> What triggered me was a mail I got
>>>>> from someone in the community,
>>>>> stating that he rather spent his
>>>>> time otherwise, declining an
>>>>> invitation I had sent him. No
>>>>> problem of course, but it took me
>>>>> to the following page;
>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings
>>>>>
>>>>> No activities are visible for me
>>>>> the visitor, going over the pages
>>>>> it seems that the latest info
>>>>> dates from 2012. I know activities
>>>>> are still going on, organized by
>>>>> enthusiasts on a very local scale,
>>>>> but for me it is not visible
>>>>> whether all of this is coordinated.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find it a pity, that in the
>>>>> period where MS end of lifes XP I
>>>>> don't see any coordinated activity
>>>>> to get people over into the
>>>>> Ubuntu/Mint/Linux camp.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone please comment and give
>>>>> feedback or let me know I'm wrong
>>>>> and I seem to live life on a
>>>>> desolate space outside of the
>>>>> Ubuntu community?
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a nice day.
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
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> Er is geen franstaalig kant van ubuntu.be <http://ubuntu.be/>
> Daarom ga ik on ubuntu.fr <http://ubuntu.fr/>. Ik vind daar
> alles wat ik hebt nodig. Voor een franstalige
> ubunterosubuntu.fr <http://ubunterosubuntu.fr/> is goed
> gemaakt en zeer aktiev. De forum kan u veel solutie geven en
> de documentatie is ook goed gemaakt.
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