[Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu life in Belgium

Sat May 3 19:11:02 UTC 2014

Why not use them all? There are enough applications out there that let you
post on multiple social media all at once...

On a side note: I'm making a diaspora* node for hackerspace ghent. When
it's finished, I'll also make an ubuntu-be group there, so we can hang out
on our own, open source, trustable, distributed social platform...

2014-05-03 12:54 GMT+02:00 Alain Baudrez <a.baudrez at gmail.com>:

> I just had a look at the ubuntu-be page on Google+ -
> https://plus.google.com/112197959490301022128/about?hl=nl - it is idle.
> Even if we don't have the possibility to modify our website in the near
> future, we could at least use the events options of our Google+ page to
> announce what we plan to do.
>
> Same goes for our FB page - https://www.facebook.com/groups/87950312093/. There is a bit more 'life' in the FB group, but nothing spectacular.
>
> I noticed quite a lot op webpages like '10 things to do after installing
> ubuntu 14.04'. We could at least translate (some of) those pages into Dutch
> and French and post them on those two social media, It would be a start.
>
> The main problem I see is which one we will be using.
> With the 'rumours' of Google eventually downsizing or shutting down their
> G+ social network, and on the other side some users not trusting Facebook,
> which way must we go?
>
>
> 2014-05-03 11:29 GMT+02:00 Duray Pol <duraypol at gmail.com>:
>
>  Le 02/05/2014 14:26, Luc Rulkin a écrit :
>>
>>  Goede middag .
>>
>>  Een klein vraagje , van iemand die een paar jaar terug al een vraag
>> stelde op t forum , zonder antwoord ..
>> zeggen jullie nu : "wij zijn op stervens na dood ... ga naar Ubuntu.nl of
>> Ubuntu.fr ?".
>>  Is er een franstalige kant van ubuntu.be ?  Anders ga ik daar eens
>> vragen wat ik kan doen.
>> (oude acer met Vista Profess. zou ik willen proberen op Ubuntu)(ik ben
>> geen It'er en heb wat aanwijzingen nodig)
>>
>>  C'est tout !!
>>
>>  MIVG Luc R
>>
>> Luc Rulkin
>> Bergstraat 6
>> B 9630  St Marie Latem (Zwalm)
>>
>> There is nothing worse than being talked about, that is not being talked
>> about.
>> (O Wilde)
>>    On Friday, 2 May 2014, 12:25, tom verlinden <tom.verlinden at gmail.com><tom.verlinden at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>   Bill's proposal looks mighty fine to me. I'll get my thinking cap on
>> and see what i  an come up with. Anybody having a problem with bill's
>> proposal?
>> Op 2 mei 2014 06:36 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn" <jurgen.gaeremyn at pandora.be
>> >:
>>
>>  I think any of the hackerspaces will be willing to accomodate... people
>> living near train stations on our group might too...
>>
>> Possibly I can't be available myself (wife is pregnant and due for June
>> 4th) but I'm pretty sure Hackerspace Brussels (hackerspace.be) would be
>> glad to offer you a chair in the space or the garden...
>>
>> Grtz,
>> Jurgen.
>>
>> On 01-05-14 23:08, Jan Bongaerts wrote:
>>
>>   Real life meeting should still take preference over virtual meeting,
>> if you ask me.
>>  It's not all that hard to organise. Jurgen did it, I did it. They were
>> all successful.
>>  Just get to somewhere easily accessible by public transport.
>>  Brussels is the best.
>> Antwerp or Ghent might be a good option.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1 May 2014 22:51, Merlijn Sebrechts <merlijn.sebrechts at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>   aa) I can help with the website. I now a tiny bit of Drupal. If
>> somebody can give me the right credentials, I could take a look at it next
>> week. Mike Morraye knows more about the website, I think.
>>  cc) same as aa)
>>  ee) I think Google Hangouts is the best free option. If somebody has a
>> sip server, we could also use a sip client like jitsi.org, which has
>> excellent Ubuntu support.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Thanks for doing this wake-up call, kawabill!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  2014-05-01 21:40 GMT+02:00 kawabill <kawabill at telenet.be>:
>>
>>  Hey I'm not alone on the island....! :)
>>
>> Tom, you're right I think and I agree. It is not somebody we need, it is
>> us. Also Juergen's proposal for having Ubuntu-be.org and setting clear
>> expectations I agree with, this way we can prevent disappointment from and
>> by others. Carrying Ubuntu-be to the funeral I would think is just a bit
>> too early. From the reactions, at least 5-10 people are actively involved
>> and able to help.
>>
>> Using IRC is maybe just a little too much written words and I've got no
>> clue how to get it to work reliably, I think we need to get together or at
>> least get visual. For getting together there is the hacker space, the
>> facilities in Houthalen an hack - even an old school room in Bree. Is there
>> an open source alternative to Skype, allowing for a virtual meeting maybe
>> (I saw Apache's Open Meeting)? Or what if we organise a chat/video
>> conference from the 'local' events; Houthalen in Limburg, Hackerspace,
>> Brugge - can we organize it maybe in such a way that it's all in sync; ie.
>> every last Wednesday of the month (convenient for LImburg, as this is the
>> gathering date already)?
>>
>>
>> 1) Do you want to help set up a booth at fosdem 2015? YES, if we can plan
>> ahead I would think we can get the right and motivated people involved
>> including this chap
>>  2) Do you still use the website? If so, how? YES, but let's indeed make
>> it such that people see activity - starting with filling the agenda showing
>> the local activities for example
>>  3) What information would you want to see on the new website? Haven't
>> really given it a thought, but one thing for sure I would like to see and
>> that is UP TO DATE information
>>
>> Let's keep the ideas coming, I think getting around the bank account
>> quickly is indeed opening a new one, and make it one that we can access and
>> at least have some kind of redundancy. This as not to get stuck again.
>>
>> I have to read and negotiate contracts all day, it would really be good
>> if we could talk to each other, preferably face to face. This way we
>> iterate in seconds rather than weeks.
>>
>> Finally; let's get the link into Canonical established and strengthened.
>> I work for a large company and quite a large bunch is starting to use
>> Ubuntu also on the desktop. Ubuntu Phone is a great idea and has huge
>> potential, especially for cost savings. I checked how I could get our
>> purchasing in contact easily, but believe me, Canonical is not going to
>> sell the idea if they stick to how they have approached this up to now. I
>> would think, certainly in Europe, they have a  wide enough network of
>> enthusiasts and could easily bundle the network to get aggressive into
>> offering savings to large and medium size companies. As far as I'm
>> concerned I use the software that they have ubuntu-ed, it is this creation
>> that binds us - the reason why I spend my time locally to help people is
>> for ubuntu, and also as a kind of payback to Canonical because they have
>> created a magnificent piece of software. Not only them, but they are for me
>> one of the main forces behind humanizing Linux! Credit to Mark Shuttleworth
>> for all that. Taking Ubuntu-be to the graveyard doesn't seem the best way
>> to help and show a kind of gratitude.
>>
>> Too many words written already, and hail to he/she who came to this
>> point. How to go forward? Let's use 8D methodology and get this going.
>> 1) Plan - revive Ubuntu-be and prevent it from going quiet again
>> 2) The core-team members proposed, let me know who disagrees or cannot
>> pick up;
>>     a) kawabill
>>     b) nero
>>     c) Frank Neirynck
>>     d) Tom Verlinden
>>     e) Jan Bongaerts
>>     f) Merlijn Sebrechts
>>     g) Alain Daudrez
>> 3) The problem; Ubuntu-be is dying
>> 4) Temporary fix;
>>     aa) website is not upto date (whom can take action and when?)
>>     bb) bank account needs to be corrected (to open a new one I can pick
>> up the action and can have it done within two weeks, with regards to the
>> old one whom can get the responsible person to help organize it such that
>> we have multiple Ubuntu-ers to get access and when?)
>>     cc) support point map - remove ghost accounts and update or allow for
>> updated information (whom can take action and when?)
>>     dd) Limburg event box - Wouter, please drop me an e-mail where I can
>> come and pick it up and get it into my storage garage)
>>     ee) Setup a web-meeting last Wednesday of May (May 28th), we can use
>> Skype, Google hangout or maybe someone can help build Open Meeting for
>> Ubuntu (I don't mind planning and coordinating, whom can help setup the
>> technical side of it all, Nero???)
>>
>> Let's get this going before we start root-cause analysis, and when need
>> please team up where you can. Myself I'm not really good at using Drupal,
>> I've build my own in HTML, but I sure could help cleaning up and updating.
>>
>> Your comments please?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01-05-14 12:39, tom verlinden wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your info on this. I've always thought that this certain
>> "somebody" should comprise out of more than one person. One person can't
>> take this on his or her shoulders. There's too much, from what i'm reading,
>> for one person to do and be succesfull about it. There should be a team of
>> somebodies, all doing somewhat the same, but in different locations. (Does
>> that make sense?) Is there a need for a central organ? To me that makes it
>> too complicated already, and might create expectations, that cannot be
>> fullfilled. Anyway, there's need, i guess to promote ubuntu, as Bill said.
>> Now we have to figure out how to do this in a fun way, i guess.
>> Op 1 mei 2014 12:27 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn" <jurgen.gaeremyn at pandora.be
>> >:
>>
>>  Tom,
>>
>> the strongest periods of Ubuntu-be were when one single person actually
>> kept his shoulders under the project. In the past we had a few of these
>> people. Thing is: ubuntu-be.org should set clear expectations: what
>> (not) to expect: a spokesman, the official stance of Ubuntu on whatever
>> Belgian activity, guaranteed support, etc...
>>
>> If someone stands up and is prepared to take leadership, you will quickly
>> have a core team of somewhere between 5 and 10 or even more if you do a
>> great job. If you're willing to take up this commitment, you'll be doing
>> Ubuntu-be a big favour. Problem is, apparently this mythical figure called
>> "somebody" we're all talking about and who'll do all the practical stuff
>> like maintain the website, organise event booths, create content, etc...
>> isn't on this list anymore. Not sure if he ever was.
>>
>> Please, do give it a chance. First things first - canonical approval is
>> not a problem if you can prove you're active. I'm assuming someone here
>> will be able to tell you more details on this.
>>
>> Grtz,
>> Jurgen.
>>
>> On 01-05-14 12:11, tom verlinden wrote:
>>
>> I don't know about organizing a funeral just yet. Maybe ubuntu.be could
>> be a commonplace for those using and or discovering ubuntu but more in a
>> fun sort of way. Don't know if i'm saying this right, but i think you get
>> the picture. There doesn't need to be a central person or spokesman imho.
>> Makes it far too official. The first goal should be, in my humble opinion,
>> to get people to discover ubuntu. Maybe by promoting this list we could get
>> more people discovering the os. As far as i'm concerned, i use ubuntu, talk
>> about it and show it to whoever i think might be interrested, give support
>> where i can and drop leaflets in our library. (They're also on ubuntu.
>> Woot!!)
>> I think that if we do our part any wich way we can, on our little
>> "islands", and use the net, list as our "glue", who knows what can happen
>> in the future? Is there still a connection with canonical? How does that
>> work? Hell, typing this gets me all fired up to give this a chance. What do
>> you guys think? Give it some kind of try, or just leave, and do something
>> on our own? (I think we could achieve more together, but i'd like to hear
>> your opinion). My 2 cents....
>> Op 30 apr. 2014 07:30 schreef "kawabill" <kawabill at telenet.be>:
>>
>> What triggered me was a mail I got from someone in the community, stating
>> that he rather spent his time otherwise, declining an invitation I had sent
>> him. No problem of course, but it took me to the following page;
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings
>>
>> No activities are visible for me the visitor, going over the pages it
>> seems that the latest info dates from 2012. I know activities are still
>> going on, organized by enthusiasts on a very local scale, but for me it is
>> not visible whether all of this is coordinated.
>>
>> I find it a pity, that in the period where MS end of lifes XP I don't see
>> any coordinated activity to get people over into the Ubuntu/Mint/Linux camp.
>>
>> Can anyone please comment and give feedback or let me know I'm wrong and
>> I seem to live life on a desolate space outside of the Ubuntu community?
>>
>> Have a nice day.
>> Bill
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>>  Er is geen franstaalig kant van ubuntu.be Daarom ga ik on ubuntu.fr. Ik
>> vind daar alles wat ik hebt nodig. Voor een franstalige
>> ubunterosubuntu.fr is goed gemaakt en zeer aktiev. De forum kan u veel
>> solutie geven en de documentatie is ook goed gemaakt.
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