Call for discussion to clarify the IRC guidelines

[IdleOne]

On 11-07-20 03:37 PM, Corey Quinn wrote:
>
> On Jul 19, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Charles Profitt wrote:
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>> There has been a lot of discussion of 'words' to use in describing
>> behavior in IRC. For me it all boils down to one word - respectful.
>
> I'd be extremely reluctant to nail it down any further than that; if 
> you do, you wind up with people who start "rules lawyering" to the 
> point where they're (barely) within the rules, but waved goodbye to 
> the "respectful" spirit a while ago.
>
> "I know off topic when I see it," while hard to codify, tends to be 
> the only really "sane" way to approach these things.
>
> -- Corey / KB1JWQ
>
>
For me it still boils down to what I would say in front of your 
children. I keep thinking about children because we do have users as 
young as 13 who are in our channels and maybe even younger.

Would any of us walk into a McDonald's and order a EFFIN BigMac? I would 
hope the manager politely asks me to watch my language and if not kick 
me out of the restaurant.

Would any of us start discussing a sexual topic in vulgar detail (fill 
in your own vulgar words here) ? We all know what is acceptable language 
in a public place and I see the Ubuntu name space as a public place.
Those user who like to argue that they swear in front of their 
parents/children/priest/waiter... and think they will actually convince 
ME that it is ok or that the word "fuck" is just random letters and we 
assign meaning to those letters are IMHO EFFIN IDIOTS and deserve to be 
removed.

As far as double standards towards fellow ops or regular users goes I 
have been removed from #ubuntu-offtopic in the past and I deserved it. I 
am not an op in that channel but if a fellow op in #ubuntu started 
swearing or otherwise breaking the rules and they did not get the 
helpful poke to stop on the first attempt I would have no problems 
removing them from the channel as I would expect the same from them.  It 
is important to remember that -offtopic is a "social" channel and has a 
different culture, does that mean the rules apply differently to some 
users, yes sometimes they do.

IdleOne
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