New roles in the Ubuntu IRC team

[Juha Siltala]

Hi,

I have little to add at this point; I continue to support Jussi's idea. This
really doesn't require any big change in our structure, we're simply asking
for help as we cannot take care of the constantly growing workload.

Thanks,
Juha
On Oct 27, 2011 8:32 PM, "Jussi Schultink" <jussi01 at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Michael Kaulbach <geniibuntu at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I would like to volunteer for factoid review/editing
>
> Thanks!
>
> >
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> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-irc
> >
> >
> So, lets try to keep this thread on topic – if you have complaint with
> the IRCC or some other topic to bring up, please start a new thread or
> fork this one.
>
> I think since people have had a chance to say their thoughts about the
> idea, its now time that I try to answer concerns and explain myself a
> bit better.
>
> I want to start by mentioning this is my idea, not something from the
> whole IRCC. I'm bringing it to you all as a team via the list (as
> anyone else might), to get feedback, thoughts and constructive ideas.
>
> I also want to mention that the thing that triggered the initial email
> was actually a talk with a prominent operator who came to chat with
> the IRCC recently. This operator pointed out the need to have things
> more planned, the fact this was supposed to be a team effort and the
> effectiveness of having a roadmap. So I thank that particular operator
> for taking the time out to come and be frank, but also constructive.
>
> 1) people have outlined concerns that this is just an increase in
> bureaucracy and useless red tape.
>
> In fact, this is quite the opposite. This is designed to reduce the
> amount of hoops people jump through to get things done. Its designed
> to minimise the work we need to do by organising and planning the work
> that needs to be done.
> The champions/people/$name_you_feel_like_calling_them for each area
> would be responsible for planning how the item they are responsible
> for would be looked after, gather ideas from the team to make it
> better and generally looking after the items “wellbeing”. Please note,
> the items I listed were only ideas that came to me, not a definate
> list that must be adhered to (as I mentioned in the first email) - so
> please feel free to say "heres an area I'm interested in, I can do
> this".
>
>
> 2) people have noted that the work is already getting done on an ad
> hoc basis, why formalise these things?
>
> Simply, the work is not getting done – as raised by the operator that
> came to me the other day.
>
> How many of our factoids are out of date?  Have all of our documents
> been checked for up-to-dateness? Have we got stale channels in the
> channel list?  Misused channels? Who checks these? Who organises that
> all this happens in a timely manner? (and many more questions)
>
> All I am proposing is that we have people who are willing to take on a
> role, and give them a name/position and list them somewhere. Then, if
> someone is not sure about something happening in a particular area,
> they can go to that list and find the person and talk about the road
> map, offer to help, make a suggestion etc. This also helps when the
> IRC team needs to report what is happening to the CC, all that is
> needed from each person is a single line status, making up our IRC
> team report simply and easily.
>
> This idea is designed to all but do away with the IRCC for most items,
> involve the IRC Team in organising and doing so as to make use of the
> IRCC only when really needed, for dispute resolution, meta decisions,
> staffing and so on.
>
> Once again, I welcome constructive thoughts on how to improve the idea
> or alternate ideas which will improve the state of things within the
> IRC team. However, please, please do not resort to personal attacks
>
>
> Regards
>
> Jussi.
>
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